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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971 07 13 CC MIN1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peCC05044 ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE BALDWIN PARK CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS) 14403 East Pacific Avenue The City Council of the City of Baldwin Park met in adjourned regular session at the above place at 7:00 p.m. Mayor Gregory led the salute to the flag. Roll Call: Present: COUNCILMEN BLEWETT. HAMILTON, KING, MC CARON AND MAYOR GREGORY Also Present: CITY ATTORNEY FLANDRICK. FINANCE DIRECTOR DUNCAN AND CITY CLERK BALKUS Absent: CITY MANAGER NORDBY. CITY ENGINEER FRENCH, PLANNING DIRECTOR GORDON. CHIEF OF POLICE ADAMS AND CITY TREASURER CODLING 00- COUNCILMAN BLEWETT MOVED THAT CITY MANAGER NORDBY BE EXCUSED. COUNCILMAN KING SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. 00- Mayor Gregory requested that City Attorney Flandrick give an over all review of the proposed City Charter. City Attorney Flandrick commented on the Preamble and each Article. He elaborated on Articles and Sections on which the Charter Study Commission had made recommend- ations or on which there had been considerable discussion as follows: Article V Elective Officers. City Council, City Clerk and City Treasurer. Section 505 recommends that to qualify an elective shall be a bona fide resident for at least 2 years. However, the State Code requirement is 1 year. After numerous discussions the Commission recommended an elected City Clerk and an appointive Treasurer. If this section is changed then other sections must be changed accordingly. Section 509. Filling vacancies in elective offices by appointment or election is standard procedure, but at the top of page 12 If 3 councilmantic vacancies occur" then the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors would appoint and a special election would be called. Article VII Section 703. Ordinances Publications. page 18. Mr. Flandrick recommended that Council designate an official newspaper and that in lieu of publishing an Ordinance that a summary be published. Paqe 22 Public Works Contract e) 5) by a 4/5 vote projects can oe constructed by city forces or in such other manner as Council may choose. Article X Section 900. terit System. Mr. Flandrick explainec* that a paragraph should be inserted stating that the merit system does not apply to department heads. Continued) JULY 13. 1971 7:00 P.M. FLAG SALUTE ROLL CALL CITY MANAGER EXCUSED BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peCl05C45 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13. 1971 Page 2 Article XI Fiscal Affairs. Section 1100 c) requires a public hearing before the budget is adopted. Page 36, same Article states taxes will be levied in the manner as authorized by General Law and also the City» by Ordinance, may impose other taxes allowed by Charter or general law city by virtue of the State Constitution. He explained that the Charter only required the appointment of a Planning Commission and appointments of any other boards would be decided by the Council. Mr. Flandrick stated that the Charter Study Commission had submitted the seventh draft of the Charter to the Council on April 21, 1971 for their consideration. 00- Mayor Gregory referred to page 12, Section 509 Filing vacancies in elective offices. She asked if the Charter could be written so that if there are 3 vacancies the remaining 2 could appoint 1 and thus have a quorum. She felt that the citizens would object to a total stranger, not knowing the problems of the City, appointing anyone to the Council; that surely 2 Councilmen could make a temporary appointment and that the City Manager could make recommendations. City Attorney Flandrick stated he had never seen such a provision in a Charter covering this contingency but it certainly could be done. Maypr Gregory further stated that 3 Councilmen could then call an election so the electorate could then vote their own choice and in the interim 3 councilmen could carry on the business of the City. Councilman Blewett stated he felt it would be better to have five Councilmen instead of 3 to serve in an Interim.- In answer to Mayor Gregory, City Clerk Balkus stated it would take approximately 65 days to call an election. Discussion followed concerning length of time to call election and the amount of City business in the Interim. Councilman McCaron stated he thought the Charter Commission had done a fine job all the way through. Councilman Hamilton stated he thought the Commission had done an outstanding job. He stated it was almost Identical to a General Law City. City Attorney Flandrick stated there was no major change ir terms of the structure itself. nor is there any change witn regard to the tax levy or long-term indebtedness; this was deliberate by the Commission, because they didn't feel they w-oted to make any organic change in the structure of thb ity. Councilman Hamilton stated that in the tax levy, we are still limited to $1-00; City Attorney Flandrick replied that Is correct. Councilman Hamilton stated he preferred the $1.00 limit. City Attorney F1andr*ck gave as an example the General Law tax levy presently is $1.00, plus certain exceptions for retirement, etc. If you place that in the Charter and the trfatson nitiative, if it carries, will eliminate from the property tax, as such, welfare, schools and aid purported to give other sources of revenue; it as a $2.00 limit Continued) BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peGXC5C46 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13. 1971 Page 3 insofar as the City is concerned, but it takes away some of the other sources of revenue, such as limiting the imposition of sales tax to a percentage, and that is why the Commission tried to follow the General Law. If you had a $1.00 limit in your Charter and the Constitution said the limit is $2.00, you would be restricted to the $1.00 limit, which could cause problems in the future if there is an alteration in franchise taxes and sales tax and other in lieus. These were the reasons this section of the proposed Charter has been written in this manner. Councilman Hamilton stated he agreed with the way the Charter was drawn, because any change in the Charter after adoption would require approval of the electorate, and the City Attorney stated this was correct. 00- Discussion followed regarding Section 801, City Manager, page 24. DISCUSSION RE SECTION 801, Page 24 City Manager Councilman McCaron asked the City Attorney whether he knew what provision the City of Pomona had as far as how many votes of the Council it took regarding appointment of a city manager. City Attorney Flandrick stated he was not familiar with this provision in Pomona's charter. Councilman McCaron stated there were other items in the Charter which required an affirmative vote of four members of the Council for approval, but when it conies to the position of City Manager, three members can make the appoint- ment and three members can also cancel the position. He stated that at times there was a divided Council on thinking and it was just too easy for the Council to relieve a City Manager of his duties; sometimes there might be pressure put on the Council because of things the City Manager has to do in carrying out his duties that may make his position a tittle untenable. His main function is to carry out the wishes of the Council, and whatever they order to be done. He stated that on the School Board, the Superintendent has a contract which he has to work under, but when it comes to a city manager he has nothing to secure the job. He stated that for carrying on the business of the city, and for the man who is supposed to be on the top rung, there should be four members to appoint him and four members to remove him; this way, if the man is not doing his duty, the Council would be almost unanimous in their decision. Councilman Blewett stated he did not believe the city administrator should have a 4/5 vote, because it would be giving too much power to the city administrator, and he felt power belongs with the people, not with the top echelon of government. He stated the people can remove councilmen, and councilman, in turn, should be able to remove the officials who lead the city. Three of five members of the Council s 60% vote, or a majority, and he felt this is the way it should remain. Councilman Blewett stated he would also be totally opposed to contracting the positior. also; he stated the position should be handled in the manner It has been previously—the administrator should serve at the pleasure of the Council, and that way the administrator or manager would be more likely tc attempt to please the Council as a body. Continued) COUNCILMAN BLEWETT BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ pe tCO?C^ Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13» 1971 Page 4 Councilman King stated he felt exactly as Councilman Blewett. COUNCILMAN KING that a 3/5 vote was the only way to go in hiring or being able to dismiss a city manager for not being capable or not doing his duties. He felt it would be very difficult to fire a city manager with a 4/5 vote, unless he really aggravated a11 five council men. He stated that invariably you have one or two on a city council who could be too politically motivated to do their jobs property, not looking to the best interests of the community as a whole, and he felt 3/5 was proper. Councilman Hamilton asked whether the City Manager had the COUNCILMAN HAMILTON same right to the Appeals Board as any other employee, and City Attorney Flandrick replied he did not, and that all the appointive officers referred to in the Charter were serving at the pleasure of the Council. He stated there was no hearing required for termination; however, there were certain limits, such as the Constitution does protect dismissal, for example, based on political belief, etc., but it is not necessary to have cause in the sense that shows he was inefficient in the performance of his office; he literally serves at the pleasure of the Council. Councilman Hamilton stated that, in that case, he would agree with Councilman McCaron, in that the city manager has no contract, or no assurance of his job, and if three people didn't like him, they could bump" him, and with 4/5 it would be harder to do. He stated he felt it should be either a 4/5 vote, or the city manager should have a contract; this would hold true in other offices also, such as an engineer. Councilman King stated he felt that $24,000.00 a year would COUNCILMAN KING make a man feel like taking the initiative, and if he did take the initiative, a contract would not make any difference; he will do the job as long as he shows progress, and then it is up to the 3/5 vote to show the people that they mean business, and he felt that 4/5 or a contract would almost be an impossibility. Mayor Gregory stated she felt too much importance had been MAYOR GREGORY put on the position of city manager; he is hired to do a job. The man must prove himself to the people as well as the Council, and when he becomes ineffective, some of the Councilmen should take the initiative and ask that he move on; if you were to tie it down with a contract or a 4/5 vote, you would perhaps put into power someone you would become very disen- chanted with in the long run. She stated she would agree with the way it is presently stated in the draft of the Charter—a vote of three. Councilman Hamilton stated that if a man was not doing his job, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON he felt there would be no trouble getting 100% vote of the Council. He stated 4/5 was being reasonable and more fair to any manager in any city. Councilman McCaron stated that if three votes were sufficient COUNCILMAN MC CARON in this case, the same should hold true if the Council wanted to contract to put the city in debt. Mayor Gregory stated that whenever anything comes up before the Council indebting the city, a councilman has the right to vote. Reqardinq page 22, item 5, Councilir.an McCaron stated it would require an affirmative vote of four members of Council on a public project; he stated it still holds true that Council is at the beck and call of the public, and the public can terminate their tern. in office at any time. He stated this takes quite a few people, and when you have the decision Continued) BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peCCC5G48 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13, 1971 Page 5 of a large nuntoer of people, the decision is fairly firm, but when you get the majority decision of only five people, it is not quite so firm. He stated the policy should be to keep politics from entering the position and making it untenable, and if you have a good man his position should be protected and he should not have to worry about whether he wilt have a job the next day. Councilman Blewett stated that many times there are 3-2 or 4-1 votes, which is because Council as a body of people has an honest difference of opin-lon, and would each have a different definition of competency. He stated that in private enterprise, it only takes one person to fire someone, Councilman McCaron remarked that it only takes one man to run the business too, so it is the same thing, because it would be one man who is making a11 the decisions, with the City Council you have five people making the decisions. Councilman Blewett asked why there should be an unequal balance, and Councilman McCaron stated to get a firm opinion of the Council. He stated it was too easy for three to still not be representative of the real thinking of the Council. Councilman Blewett maintained that each vote should be equal on the Council, and he did not think Council should limit the power delegated to them by the people. He stated it takes only one vote to be defeated for Council, the same as it takes to be dismissed from the City Manager's job. Councilman Hamilton stated that he agreed with Councilman McCaron, that if an employee has the right to go to an Appeals Board and after that, the court, and the manager does not, the whole thing is not fair, because you are picking out one position and it is not getting a fair shake with the other employees of the city. Mayor Gregory stated she did not feel the city manager's job could be compared with the rest of the employees of the city. Councilman Hamilton stated the manager was getting paid, so he had a job just like the rest of the employees. Councilman Blewett stated the Finance Director and a11 the department heads within the whole spectrum come within the same umbrella. Councilman Hamilton asked for clarification of this. City Attorney Flandnck stated Councilman Blewett was correct, in that the Ordinance now provides that the various enumerated positions, i.e.. Finance Director, City Engineer, and a11 other department heads are appointed by the Manager with the approval of the Council, and can be terminated y the Manager with the approval of the Council. Councilman Blewett stated that the department heads were, In effect, management and management serves at the pleasure of the people who are above them, and that is the way a11 managemen^ Is everywhere. Referring to the school district, he stated there was a blatant example of how contracts can be misused. In that the previous superintendent was renewing his contract prior to election, and in the event that a new school board was elected, they were powerless to do anything to him. Council man McCaron maintained that If four votes had been needed to renew the contract, this would not have occurred. Continued) COUNCILMAN BLEWETT COUNCILMAN MC CARON COUNCILMAN BLEWETT COUNCILMAN HAMILTON COUNCILMAN BLEWETT COUNCILMAN MC CARON BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ pelt?5C49 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13, 1971 Page 6 Councilman McCaron asked whether City Attorney Flandrick had said that at the present time a department head had no appeal of any sort. The City Attorney replied he has an appeal in the sense that a policeman has an appeal—he is subject to the City Manager and the Council combined. Councilman McCaron remarked that the City Manager was alone. Councilman King stated that so long as Council represents COUNCILMAN KING the people, a 3/5 vote is sufficient, and if the people feet that they have been wronged, a Councilman can be ousted from office. He stated he could not see making the position where the individual is too secure, and he felt a 4/5 vote was too secure. 00- Councilman McCaron questioned page 40, Section 1301 regarding SECTION 1301. PAGE 40 violations of the Charter and fines and page 17d violations penalty. Mr. Flandrick stated that 1301 referred to violations of provisions of the Charter and page 17d referred to violations of ordinances and if the section on page 17d which relates to a misdemeanor were eliminated every ordinance written would require a separate penalty clause. He further explained that the $500.00 referred to in section 1301 was a maximum penalty and the court would decide what sentence to impose and that this was a protective measure for the City and is the same as under General Law. Regarding the City Treasurer position. Councilman Blewett CITY TREASURER stated he felt this position should be elective the same as POSITION the City Clerk; that appointing the Treasurer would be taking power away from the people. Councilman McCaron asked whether, under present methods of bookkeeping in the City was it necessary to have a Treasurer and was this a State Law. Mr. Flandrick stated this position was not mandatory and could be eliminated. Mayor Gregory stated the purpose of the position is check and balance regardless of how the job is now set up. If we have a Treasurer the person should act in the capacity of a Treasurer and have all the benefits of the office. $75,00 a month is not enough for an individual to take the position seriously and this has been detrimental to the office. However, this was not the way it should be and the Trea^jrer should be doing what is required by State Law. Councilman McCaron felt the office is superfluous if it is not a State Law that you have to have it and the work is now performed in one department. The books are a1wciys audited. The pay indicates the importance of the office; that tnis was not a livelihood. Mayor Gregory stated Council previously received $50.00 a month and if importance of an office was based on the pay this did not speak too well of Council men either and that perhaps this was possibly the reason there had been problems with the City Treasurer position. COL' oilman Btewett stated some people think $200.00 a month does not speak too highly of the Council either. This would be an erosion of the power of the people if they could not put the people they want into office. Continued) BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peo.sc^o Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13. 1971 Page 7 Councilman McCaron asked what the functions of the Treasurer are now. Mayor Gregory stated these duties should be as spelled out in the State Code; however, for the past 8 years. due to circumstances, this had not been followed in this city. That what was being discussed was the position of City Treasurer and whether it should be elective or appointive; that she felt it should be elective as there had been erosion throughout cities giving up elective positions and going to appointive positions. She stated she could see where the City Councilmen wouldn't be necessary either if this keeps up as a City Manager could come in and run the city Just as well without elected officers and that she would not want to be on a Board that could not offer something for the good of the city. Councilman Hamilton stated that regarding the pay for the Councilmen and the Treasurer no one is on the job for the pay they get out of it. The Planning Commissioners get $10.00 a month for what they can contribute to the city and that he did not believe money was the major factor. He stated he would like to see a provision where an elective could not be a regular employee of the city, as they do.not have to have any background as long as they lived in the city a year and were over 21 years of age; that the city was fortunate to have a qualified City Clerk in Mrs. Batkus, which he didn't object to; however, this could change. Mayor Gregory stated that the electorate of the city were smart enough, when an individual was running for office, to talk to the individual and find out why they were running for the office and their qualifications and that the people would vote for a qualified individual and if they voted for the wrong candidate that would be their mistake. Councilman Hamilton stated this was true; however, many people do not know what the duties are and there is no examination required and sometimes people are elected simply because they are well liked. Mayor Gregory stated there was at present a section in the Municipal Code which states that an elective officer cannot take the position of City Manager or a department head within a year after they have ceased to serve. Councilman King stated that he preferred an elective City Clerk and City Treasurer otherwise the people would be losing their rights and electing was the responsibility and right of the people. 00- Finance Director Duncan stated that under Section 704 c) SECTION 704 c) Supplies and Equipment a $1.00C.OO purchasing limit was SUPPLIES & EQUIPMENT set forth. She explained that $1,000.00 will not buy what it did f^ve years ago and she asked if the amount could possibly oe increased to $1,200.00 for the purchase of everyday supplies and equipment; that sometimes a quotation would be under $1,000.00 but at times a contingency could arise and hold up work. Discussion followed. Council was in agreement that the amount should be raised to $1,200.00. 00- BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peX.05051 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13. 1971 Page 8 Councilman Blewett stated he would like to hear any suggestions members of the audience might have, and Mayor Gregory suggested that at the end of the meeting a spokesman might present their views to the Council. Councilman Hamilton stated he would like to hear some of their ideas. Michael Dargus. 12360 E. Francisquito. asked if we go to a MICHAEL DARGUS charter city will our contributions from the state be the 12360 E. FRANCISQUITO same or increase, as far as gas tax, sales tax, liquor tax. etc. City Attorney Flandrick stated the charter will have no effect on the gas or sales tax; however, as a charter city. depending on what happens in the current legislature. we might have the authority to impose a tippler's tax. Mr. Dargus stated that although there is a $1.00 limit on property tax. there is no limit on Parks and Recreation or Lighting, and Council can tax whenever they feel like it, City Attorney Flandrick stated that under general law this was correct, and there is no limit in the general law presently for parks and parkways for permissible taxes; the charter would not in any way affect the authority to levy property tax it would be identical to the general law city. Mr. Dargus commented that under charter Council would have authority to levy any taxes they wanted to establish, such as utility tax, road tax. etc. other than property tax, and the City Attorney replied this was correct. Councilman Blewett stated that the state is exploring the public utilities tax, and this will probably pass within the next 3 to 5 years, and local government will undoubtedly get a share of this tax; based on past performance, as in the case of cigarette tax, there was a more generous distribution for charter cities than for general law cities; if Baldwin Park had been a charter city the estimated income from the cigarette tax would have been $300.000.00 and it is currently $115.000.00. so the city suffers a loss of about $185.000.00 a year, which could come off the property tax. He stated that local government has to have the tools to tax so that they can provide services, and he felt that the government closest to the people should have the power. Councilman King, referring to the inequities of per capita distribution on the cigarette tax, asked the City Attorney whether he felt we could get into that position again, where general law cities would have to fight to receive their equal share; the City Attorney replied he felt this could occur shortly with regard to the utility tax. 00- Hayor Gregory requested that the minutes of this meeting be included in the August agenda packets. 00- Councitman Blewett asked City Clerk Balkus if in the event Council decides to place the charter on the ballot, what would be the shortest legal time to set up an election. Mrs. Balkus stated it would be approximately 65 d^ys from the date you adopt the resolution; you have to call the election first, then nodfy the Board of Supervisors, have the ballots pririLed, etc- Continued) BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ pe005052 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council July 13, 1971 Page 9 Mayor Gregory stated that there was a possibility that the matter of C.R.A. would go to an election, and she felt the expenditure would be too great to have the charter and C.R.A. both on an election. She felt it would be wise to wait for a recommendation from the C.R.A. Study Committee. Councilman Blewett stated he was committed to the fact that C.R.A. should be on the ballot, but he did not feel that we should hold up the Charter to wait for the C.R.A. He stated that quite often if a controversial issue on a ballot is defeated, everything goes down, and having C.R.A. and the Charter on the same ballot, this might be the case if C.R.A. was defeated, and having both issues on the same ballot might cause confusion to the citizens. He stated he would tike to see an important issue such as the charter go to an election by itself, and he felt the C.R.A. could be brought up at the next regular councilmantic election. Mrs. Amos Slater, 4814 N. Stancroft, commented that she didn't MRS. AMOS SLATER feel the people were being given enough credit for inte11igence4814 N. STANCROFT by not putting the two issues on the same ballot, in that she felt sure they could differentiate between the two. Council- man Blewett responded that quite often when one issue overrides another and brings a negative vote, everything goes down at the same time. City Attorney Flandrick indicated that C.R.A. could be put on the ballot at the Primary Election in 1972. Michael Dargus asked whether the charter was supposed to be MICHAEL DARGUS set for public hearing before it was adopted and went to ballot. City Attorney Flandrick stated there was no require- ment for a public hearing, but Council could call one if desired. Mayor Gregory stated she felt this should be set for a public hearing, but indicated she felt Council should complete their study and discussion on the matter first. Councilman McCaron stated he felt it should be expedited as quickly as possible, and if a ubilc hearing were to be set, he suggested it be in the ear future. COUNCILMAN BLEWETT MOVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SET THE MATTER OF A PROPOSED CITY CHARTER FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 4, 1971. COUNCILMAN KING SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOLLOWED. Councilman Hamilton suggested holding a special meeting on the charter alone, as the regular agenda is usually full, and he felt perhaps this would generate more interest from the public rather than holding the hearing at a regular meeting. Councilman McCaron stated he felt the same interest could be generated at a regular meeting. Councilman King stated that if we should have a large crowd. Council could adjourn to the auditorium or the park building. Councilman Hamilton stated ne wanted to be sure the people would get notice of the meeting so they would attend. Mayor Gregory stated it would be published, and also the reporter was present and he would include it in his report of this meeting. Councilman Blewett directec a remark to the Improvement Association indicating thac he hoped any notice they might send out would be fair and that they would not editorialize. and cause anyone to formulate preconceived ideas. Continued) MOTION TO SET PROPOSED CHARTER FOR HEARING 8/4/71 DISCUSSION BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1971 07 13 CC MIN(ÌìÚÂ peC05C53 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Mr. James Garrow, President of the Baldwin Park Improvement Association, assured the Council that they were working for the interest of Baldwin Park, and that they had gotten the people out, which was what the Council wanted. Councilman Blewett stated they also had the responsibility the same as a newspaper, to disseminate truthful information, not misconceptions; he stated he felt very strongly that the Association had this obligation to the people and must deal with the people fairly, as the Council must. Mr. Garrow stated they would deal fairly with the citizens, but they do want the people to come out. Councilman Hamilton stated he was not aware it had been decided that C.R.A. would go to a ballot. Mayor Gregory stated that some of the people she had talked to on the Study Committee had expressed the thought that they would like it to go to a bdllot vote, but she had not meant to indicate that it had been decided. She mentioned that Councilman Blewett had stated he was committed to this idea, and asked him to explain. Councilman Blewett stated he had committed himself to this idea at one of the meetings at the park building earlier in the year, and he remained committed to the idea that the people should make the decision. He stated he is personally committed to it, but the other Councilmen may not be; he is probably one of the greater proponents of C.R.A., but he stilt felt it should go to a vote of the people. Mayor Gregory indicated that there was a good deal of interest generated for the issue, and she felt that if this were the recormiendation of the Study Committee, in alt fairness, it should be put on the ballot. Councilman Hamilton indicated this was what had concerned him with the discussion regarding election, since he felt Council should wait for a recommendation from the Committee; he felt there are some fine people on the Committee and stated he had confidence in their judgment. There were no objections to the motion. The motion carried and was so ordered. 00- AT 8:57 P.M. COUNCILMAN BLEWETT MOVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURN. MAYOR GREGORY SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. 00- July 13, 1971 Page 10 JAMES GARROW PRES. IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION MOTION CARRIED ADJOURNED 8:57 P.M. t>^^<^_^^^^ THELMAL. 6ALKOS. CtTY CLERK—— / / /^^^/y 1971 APPROVED: / Date of DistributionDate of Distribution to City Council: t'^,^3^ 1971 to Departments: y^.W 1971 BIB] 37659-U01 1971-U02 07-U02 13-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9838-U03 DO9990-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06