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Home My WebLink About1972 05 09 CC MIN1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]peIN.D.E.X. May 9. 1972 Joint Meeting of City Council & Planning Commission Presentation & Discussion of Proposal from Lampman & Associates for the City's Reconnaissance Study Adjourn 6:04 P.M. to 5:00 P.M.. Wed., May 10th at Community Building. Morgan Park BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]peC005451 UNOFFICIAL UNTIL APPROVED ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE BALDWIN PARK CITY COUNCIL MORGAN PARK COMMUNITY BUILDING» 14255 E. Ramona Boulevard The City Council of the City of Baldwin Park met with the Planning Commission in adjourned regular session at the above place at 5:00 p.m. MAY 9. 1972 5:00 P.M. Roll Call: Present: Absent: Also Present: COUNCILMEN GREGORY, HAMILTON. KING. MC CARON AND MAYOR BLEWETT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS DARGUS, THOMAS, WITTIG. YANEZ AND CHAIRMAN MIDDLETON COMMISSIONERS LARSON AND MC CORD CITY MANAGER MOCALIS, PLANNING DIRECTOR GORDON. CITY TREASURER CALE, CITY CLERK BALKUS CHARLES STAPLETON AND HERBERT EPSTEIN, OF LAMPMAN & ASSOCIATES ROLL CALL Absent: CITY ATTORNEY FLANDRICK. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS PERRY. FINANCE DIRECTOR DUNCAN. CHIEF OF POLICE ADAMS 00- Planning Director Gordon distributed copies of the letter of proposal from Lampman & Associates for the City's Reconnaissance Study. He introduced Mr. Charles Stapleton and Mr. Herbert Epstein. Mr. Stapleton stated that five years ago, Lampman & Associates had made a presentation regarding the circulation element in the downtown area; they were doing a street design, and they had aerial photos. He referred to the January 24, 1972 letter of proposal which had been distributed. Lampman & Associates is more than just an engineering and planning firm; they are also architectural, and look at the total environment and traffic engineering. Mr. Epstein was the Planning Director of Stockton, California, and he has carried out a redevelop- ment project. Mr. Stapleton joined Lampman & Associates in 1964, and he is the principal planner. Mr. Stapleton reviewed pages 2, 3 and 4 of the letter of proposal. He explained that, according to the 1970 census, there are problems, as the median value of a house in Los Angeles County is $24,000 and the median value in Baldwin Park is just over $17,000. There are overcrowded conditions, almost twice that in the county as a whole. There is a need to get into the private sector of the city. Mr. Epstein stated that in his experience with Stockton they had unemployment and low income, and they needed a circulation plan. They had developed a workable program with citizen participation, encompassing problems, causes and recommendations to solve them. The people at first were concerned that their homes would be taken from them. The homes had a $12,000 value and were over 50 years old, Continued) PROPOSAL DISTRIBUTED MR. STAPLETON & MR. EPSTEIN INTRODUCED BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]peC005A52 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Aid was available, and costs of the property went down. They are tearing down the old commercial area of the city. Commercial development includes a coordinated program of ail elements, and the federal government will support some of the programs where there is not a profit involved. You must have a program goal. He stated they would give guidance and recommendations for better street circulation and possibly better frontage roads in the vicinity of the freeway. Mr. Stapleton stated that they have worked with 60 to 70 cities, but had not done a local economic reconnaissance study. Mr. Epstein stated there should be convenient local centers for grocery shopping, but not for retail; that you do not have a strong downtown area when there are so many little centers; that strip development is not successful, and that after the study a final decision could be made as to what is best for the over-ail good of the city. Mr. Stapleton stated that the reconnaissance study would be helpful in moving into the General Plan program. The study will provide background as to what the problems are and what to do. Regarding centralized shopping and regional shopping centers, he felt the economics of stretching out would not prove profitable; a shopping center is owned by one company, and is controlled as far as parking, uniform appearance, etc. The central business district has no uniformity or control of parking, etc., except for city laws. A central business district gives the feeling of shopping convenience, but people also want services, such as municipal services, library, lawyers, etc. Regional centers have services as well as shopping and price comparison. Mr. Epstein stated that there were legal avenues that required upgrading of blighted properties which had out-of-town owners. In answer to Mayor Blewett, Mr. Epstein stated that they did not have contacts with realtors or specific individuals to acquire a shopping center. Mr. Stapleton explained that their job would be to pro- vide municipal consulting whereby economics could be provided to carry the program out. There is no guarantee of this kind of service. They would outline the problem and recommend methods of solution- They explained that they did not develop the Cerritos center they had come afterward; that 3/4 of the down- town businesses had opened up in the new center, but had retained their downtown location. Mr. Stapleton stated that the City's General Plan should be updated. Continued) May 9, 1972 Page 2 BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]pe CGG5A53 Adjourned Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council May 9, 1972 Page 3 Mr. Gordon thanked Mr. Stapleton and Mr. Epstein for their presentation. 00- AT 6:04 P.M.. COUNCILMAN KING MOVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURN TO 5:00 P.M., WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 1972 AT THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IN MORGAN PARK. COUNCILMAN GREGORY SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. AT 6:04 P.M.. COMMISSIONER MIDDLETON MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADJOURN TO 5:00 P.M., WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 1972 AT THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IN MORGAN PARK. COMMISSIONER DARGUS SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. 00- COUNCIL ADJOURNED 6:04 P.M. TO 5:00 P.M. WEDNESDAY. 5/10/72 AT COMMUNITY BUILDING, MORGAN PARK PLAN. COMM. ADJOURNED 6:04 P.M. TO 5:00 P.M. WEDNESDAY. 5/10/72 AT COMMUNITY BUILDING, MORGAN PARK APPROVED: A^^^ c^/____. 1972 Date of Distribution to City Council: /^^L^ /'^ i Date of Distribution to Departments: /(/^^r^/ /^ 1972 1972 BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]peAFFIDAVIT OF POSTING NOTICE OF AIMOURNHENT OF HKTINfi STATE OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES) SS: CITY OF BALDWIN PARK THELMA L. BALKUS, being first duly sworn, says and deposes: that I am the duly chosen, qualified and acting City Clerk of the City Council of the City of Baldwin Park; that at a Adjourned Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Baldwin Park held May 9,________, 1972 said meeting was ordered adjourned to the time and place specified in the Notice of the Adjournment ATTACHED HERETO: that on May 10_____, 1972 at the hour of 10:00 a,rn,, I posted a copy of said Notice at a conspicuous place on or near the door of the place at which said meeting of May 9_____, 1972 was held. JA^4-<^ X 4^/^^^ TtiCLMA L. BALKUS. CITV CLERK Subscribed and sworn to before me this /^ M day of /^a^/____ 19 BY: AP€ C^-^-<A^Ty-^ L. LEE CRAWFORD, DEPUTY CITY CLERK X^^^ Notary Public in and for said County and State l, ICl/'l AL THELMA S. DUNCAN NOTARY PUBLIC-CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES COUNTY My Commission Expires Feb. 25,1975 14403'T Pacific Ave., Baldwin Park, Calif 91706 BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1972 05 09 CC MIN(ÌìÖ]peADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE BALDWIN PARK CITY COUNCIL MORGAN PARK COMMUNITY BUILDING, 14255 E. Ramona Boulevard The City Council of the City of Baldwin Park met in adjourned regular session at the above place at 5:00 p.m. Roll Call: Present: COUNCILMEN GREGORY, HAMILTON KING, MC CARON AND MAYOR BLEWETT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS DARGUS, THOMAS, WITTIG, YANEZ AND CHAIRMAN MIDDLETON MAY 9, 1972 5:00 P.M. ROLL CALL Absent: Also Present: COMMISSIONERS LARSON AND MC CORD CITY MANAGER MOCALIS, PLANNING DIRECTOR GORDON, CITY TREASURER CALE AND CITY CLERK BALKUS CHARLES STAPLETON AND HERBERT EPSTEIN OF LAMPMAN & ASSOCIATES Absent: CITY ATTORNEY FLANDRICK, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS PERRY, FINANCE DIRECTOR DUNCAN AND CHIEF OF POLICE ADAMS 00- AT 6:04 P.M., COUNCILMAN KING MOVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURN TO 5:00 P.M., WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 1972 AT THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IN MORGAN PARK. COUNCILMAN GREGORY SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. AT 6:04 P.M., COMMISSIONER MIDDLETON MOVED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADJOURN TO 5:00 P.M., WEDNESDAY, MAY 10, 1972 AT THE COMMUNITY BUILDING IN MORGAN PARK. COMMISSIONER DARGUS SECONDED. There were no objections. The motion carried and was so ordered. 00- COUNCIL ADJOURNED 6:04 P.M. TO 5:00 P.M. WEDNESDAY, 5/10/72 AT COMMUNITY BUILDING, MORGAN PARK PLAN. COMM. ADJOURNED 6:04 P.M. TO 5:00 P.M, WEDNESDAY, 5/10/72 AT COMMUNITY BUILDING, MORGAN PARK THELMA L. BALKUS, CITY CLERK 9 BY: e r^- LEE CRAWFORD, DEPUTY CITY CLERK DATED: TIME: MAY 10, 1972 10:00 A.M. BIB] 37659-U01 1972-U02 05-U02 09-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9837-U03 DO9917-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/6/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06