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Home My WebLink About1976 09 01 CC MIN1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peINDEX SEPTEMBER 1, 1976 Page 1 1 & 2 2 Invocation Pastor Stepnen Harris, Four Square Gospel Church Consent Calendar Remove Item No. 6 Report, E. Igna, 13409 L. Garvey, from Consent Calendar for Discussion Approve Consent Calendar with Deletion of Item 6 George Kasem Representing Mrs. Igna Approve Recommendations of Staff on It 6 of Consent Calendar to Suspend Park Operating Permit Until Corrections are Made and Nuisance Abated Oatn Public Hearing Z-398, Application for Zone Change from C-1 and R-1 to C-2 at 14510 Garvey Avenue; Applicant: Sixpence Inns of America, Inc. Publications, Mailings and Postings No Written Protests Continue Public Hearing to Octooer 6, 1976 Public Hearing on Adopting Conflict of Interest Code for Members of City Council Puotications and Postings 3 No Written Protests 3 T. E. Carpenter in Favor of Resolution 3 Public Hearing Closed 3 Resolution No. 76-76, Adopting Conflict of Interest Code Applicable 3 to Members of City Council Pursuant to the Po'iitica'i Reform Act of 1974 Adopted Public Hearing, Project P-138, Baldwin Park Blvd. Between Ramona 3-41 Blvd. and Live Oak Avenue and Project P-141, Baldwin Park Blvd. Between Merced Avenue and Bess Avenue Carry Over to Sept. 15 Publications and Postings 3 Public Hearing on Application for Modification of CP-224 at 14700 41 Badi11o Street; Applicant: Taylonnade Trucking Company, Inc. Publications, Mailings and Postings 41 No Written Protests 41 John Bityou 42 Tom Carpenter in Opposition 42 Public Hearing Closed 42 Resolution No. 76-77, Approving a Modification of Resolution 76-15 42 to Add Recreational Vehicle Parking to an Existing Truck Terminal on Property Located at 14/00 Badi11o Street Adopted 2-Year Extension Approved on Building Block Walt 42 Written Communication Robert G. Berry Requesting City to Deed 42 Property in Excnange for Sidewalk Construction Resolution No. 76-78, Declaring a Certain Parcel of City Property Surplus and Autnorizing ics Disposal Adopted 42 Contract with L.A. County for HCD Funds Approve Contract and 43 Forward to the County of Los Angeles Chief of Police Request for Disability Retirement Acting City 43 Manager Process Information Immediately and Report to City Council so That a Special Meeting may be Called Report on Lighting at Park Bowl Contact La Mirada to See How They Stopped R & X-Rated Movies 43 Staff Check Having One City Council Meeting and One Town Hall 43 Meeting Per Month and How Other Cities Conduct Meetings Gloria Zook 43 Rdut Zayas re Proposition A, California Parks Bond Act Funds 43 Tom Ktein re Thanks to Mr. Lathrop for Action on Barnes/Syracuse 43 & 44 Petition and re Invuat-ion to Attend Board of Supervisor's Budget Meecmg Helen Gibson re Point of Order and Whether Testimony Given at 44 Public Hearing on P-138 arid P-14! Should be Resubrmtted in Writing Michael Dargus re Truck larking at Moran'^, Expe;ise^ in Sacramento 44 and Cost of Treasure Chest BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peIndex September 1, 1976 Page 2 Page Duane Glass re Attacks on Councitmen by Citizens and Newspaper 44 and in Favor of CRA Tom Carpenter re Attacks on the Audience and Cutting City Budget 44 Acting City Attorney Ritchie Excused 44 Halite Slater re Availability of CRA Project No. 2 Plans and re City Newsletter, Expenditures by City Council Members and Re-Open Budget James Garrow re Efforts of A1 StocKton and Tom Ktetn on Property Tax Reduction Written Communication Keith Craig Director of Recreation and Parks Lucas WiFl Make Report on Application for Park Funds Council Discussion 11:13 P.M. Meeting Adjourned 45 45 45 45 45 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peCCOW8 REGULAR MEETING OF THE BALDWIN PARK CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS) 14403 East Pacific Avenue The City Council of the City of Baldwin Park met in regular session at the above place at 7:30 p.m. Councilman Aguilar led the salute to the flag. Invocation was given by Pastor Stephen Harris, Four Square Gospel Church. Roll Call: Present: COUNCILMEN AGUILAR, BLEWETT, HAMILTON, KITCHEL, AND MAYOR WALDO Also Present: ACTING CITY MANAGER SEXTON, ACTING CITY ATTORNEY RITCHIE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS LATHROP, ASSISTANT PLANNER MONTOYA, FINANCE DIRECTOR HALLOWAY, LIEUTENANT CHELLINO, CITY TREASURER MONTENEGRO AND CITY CLERK BALKUS Absent: DIRECTOR OF PLANNING KILGOUR AND CHIEF OF POLICE ADAMS 00- City Clerk Batkus presented the Consent Calendar: 1. Approval of Minutes of August 18, 1976 and August 24, 1976. 2. Waive Further Reading and Adopt RESOLUTION NO. 76-75 ALLOWING CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF BALDWIN PARK 3. Denial of Claim Against the City Lynn A. Godsey 4. Denial of Claim Against the City Swain Burkett SEPTEMBER 1, 1976 7:30 P.M. FLAG SALUTE INVOCATION ROLL CALL CONSENT CALENDAR MINUTES 8/18/76 & 8/24/76 RES. NO. 76-76, CLAIMS & DEMANDS, WARRANT NOS. 5733 5822, PAYROLL 8/8/76 THRU 8/21/76 CLAIM LYNN GODSEY DENIED CLAIM SWAIN BURKETT DENIED 5. Waive Further Reading and Adopt ORDINANCE NO. 742 AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS TO THE BALDWIN PARK MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO ADOPTION OF NEW BUILDING REGULATIONS SECTIONS 7000, 7004(a), 7007, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7402, 150.12), 7500 and 7550) 6. Status Report Eugenia Igna, 13409 E. Garvey Ave. 7. Traffic Committee Report Egit Avenue and Mangum Street 8. Request for Waiver of Bidding Procedures on Truck for Recreation and Parks Department 9- Report City Reference Material at County Library ORD. NO. 742, AMENDING CERTAIN SECTIONS TO B.P. MUNI. CODE RE ADOPTION OF NEW BLDG. REGULATIONS SECT. 7000, 7004(a). 7007, 7100, 7200, 7300, 7400, 7402, 150.12), 7500 and 7550) STATUS RPT. IGNA, 13409 E. GARVEY AVE. TRAFFIC COMM. RPT. EGIL AVE. & MANGUM ST. REQ. FOR WAIVER OF BIDDING PROC. ON TRUCK FOR REC. & PARKS DFPT. RPT. CITY REF. MATERIAL AT COUNTY LIBRARY continu^J) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pecoow® Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council 10. Report Council Meeting Minutes REMOVE ITEM 6, STATUS REPORT, EUGENIA IGNA. 13409 E. GARVEY AVE., FROM CONSENT CALENDAR FOR DISCUSSION. M/S/C: HAMILTON/BLEWETT. Roil Call. Ayes: HAMILTON/ BLEWETT/KITCHEL/WALDO. Noes: AGUILAR. APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE DELETION OF ITEM NO. 6. M/S/C: BLEWETT/HAMILTON. Roll Call. There were no objections. Attorney George Kasem, representing Mrs. Igna, was present and explained that some work stoppage had been due to illness of Mrs. Igna's son; that considerable improvement had been made but that the length of time allowed had not been sufficient; and that Mrs. Igna was having difficulty in borrowing money to continue. Discussion followed regarding Director of Public Works Lathrop's staff report listing work yet to be completed and his statements that unsanitary and unsafe conditions still existed. APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF ON ITEM 6 OF CONSENT CALENDAR TO SUSPEND PARK OPERATING PERMIT UNTIL ALL REQUIRED CORRECTIONS ARE MADE AND NUISANCE ABATED. M/S/C: HAMILTON/AGUILAR. Roll Call. There were no objections. 00- City Clerk Balkus administered the Oath to those in the audience desiring to be heard during the meeting. 00- It was the time and place fixed for a public hearing on Z-398, An Application for a Zone Change from Zone C-1 and R-1 to C-2 on property located at 14510 Garvey Avenue; Applicant: Sixpence Inns of America, Inc. Continued from August 4. 1976) Proper publications, mailings and postings had been accomplished. There were no written protests. Acting City Manager Sexton stated this item had been held over to give the developer an opportunity to make a proposal to the Redevelopment Agency relative to his intentions of development of the site and to survey the matter of owner participation within the Redevelopment project. He said the developer is working on the proposal, but it has not yet been completed. CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING Z-398 FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS OCTOBER 6. 1976). M/S/C: KITCHEL/BLEWETT. There were no objections. 00- It was the time and place for a public hearing on adopting a Conflict of Interest Code applicable to members of the City Council pursuant to the Political Reform Act of 1974. September 1. 1976 Page 2 RPT. COUNCIL MTG. MIN. REMOVE ITEM NO. 6 RPT., E. IGNA. 13409 E. GARVEY. FROM CONSENT CALENDAR FOR DISCUSSION APP. CONSENT CALENDAR WITH DELETION OF ITEM 6 GEO. KASEM REPRESENTING MRS. IGNA APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF ON ITEM 6 OF CONSENT CALENDAR TO SUSPEND PARK OPERATING PERMIT UNTIL CORRECTIONS ARE MADE & NUISANCE ABATED OATH PUB. HEARING Z-398, APPLIC. FOR ZONE CHG. FROM C-1 & R-1 TO C-2 AT 14510 GARVEY AVE; APPLIC.: SIXPENCE INNS OF AMERICA, INC. PUBLICATIONS, MAIL- INGS & POSTINGS NO WRITTEN PROTESTS CONT. PUBLIC HEARING TO 10/6/76 PUB. HEARING ON ADOPTING CONFLICT OF INT. CODE FOR MEMBERS OF C.C. continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007180 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Proper publications and po$tings had been accomplished There were no written protests. Acting City Attorney Ritchie said the law requires that a Resolution shall be adopted by the City Council to adopt their own Conflict of Interest Code in the form set forth in the State law, and thctb d public hearing must be held and that input reported to the FPPC. Other Conflict of Interest Codes will need to be adopted for staff members in decision-making positions, but the FPPC had held up these Codes and win soon have them before the Council to adopt. The Resolution will be sent on to the FPCC for them to determine if it complies with State Law. He explained and read sections of the Resolution to be adopted. He said there will be no change in the reporting procedure by the adoption of this Code. He said anyone deciding what constitutes disqualif- ication, disclosure or conflict of interest should read not only this Resolution, but Proposition 9 and Sections 1090, 1091 and 1091.5 of the Government Code. T. E. Carpenter, 4346 Jerry, spoke in favor of the resolution and said it was much needed in Btadwin Park As there Was no further testimony in behalf or opposition to the Conflict of Interest Resolution. Mayor Waldo declared the Public Hearing closed. Mayor Waldo asked for Council action on Resolution No. 76-76: RESOLUTION NO. 76-76, ADOPTING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE APPLICABLE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT OF 1974 RESOLUTION NO. 76-76 ADOPTED AND FURTHER READING WAIVED. M/S/C: HAMILTON/AGUILAR. Councilman Blewett suggested adding that each member of the City Council shall be required to submit a copy of their income tax return along with other disclosures. Discussion followed, with members of the Council dissenting. Mr. Ritchie stated there was consider- able criticism already of Proposition 9 because it exposes public officials already more than is necessary. causing them to choose not to serve. Ro11 Call. There were no objections. September 1, 1976 Page 3 PUBLICATIONS & POSTINGS NO WRITTEN PROTESTS T. E. CARPENTER IN FAVOR OF RES. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED RES. NO. 76-76, ADOPT- ING CONFLICT OF INT. CODE APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF C.C. PURSUANT TO THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT OF 1974 RES. NO. 76-76 ADOPTED It was the time and place on Project P-138, Baldwin Blvd. and Live Oak Avenue Park Blvd. between Merced 00- fixed for a public hearing Park Blvd. between Ramona and Project P-141. Baldwin Avenue and Bess Avenue. Proper publications and postings had been accomplished. continued) PUB. HEARING, PROJ. P-138, B.P. BLVD. BTWN. RAMONA BLVD. & LIVE OAK AVE. & PROJ. P-141. B.P. BLVD. BTWN. MERCED AVE. & BESS AVE. PUBLICATIONS & POSTINGS BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007181 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 4 Director of Public KS Lathrop Mr. Mayor, now it is time for IJrW KtjUrih the public hearing on Projects P-138 and P-141 which are the proposed improvement of Baldwin Park Blvd. between Ramona Blvd. and Live Oak and between Merced Ave. and Bess Ave., respectively. This Public Hearing is being called at the request of the State of California Dept. of Trnasportation and the Federal Highway Administration and they have requested this inasmuch as a substantial portion of the f proposed improvements are to be funded with Federal Aid funds allocated to the City of Baldwin Park. The purpose of the Public Hearing as specified by the State and Federal guidelines, is to provide an opportunity for public discussion of the major features of the project, including the social, economic and environmental effects of the proposed project. It gives the opportunity for the City Council and for the citizens of the community interested citizens and affected citizens) an opportunity to provide input to provide testimony either in favor of or in opposition to the proposed projects and it gives the City Council an opportunity to weigh all of the facts that have been gathered and to make a determination in regard to the manner in which the plans and specifications for the project shall be finalized. The Federal guidelines also stipulate that written statements and exhibits in regard to the proposed projects shall be received for a period of at least 10 days following the Public Hearing, and that no final determination can be made during that 10-day period. I'll briefly describe these 2 projects for the information of a11 in- terested citizens in the audience and for the City Council and \ \ for the record. Project P-138. which is the Baldwin Park Blvd. improvement between Ramona Blvd. and Live Oak Avenue, is described as follows: this project will consist of the construction of curbed and landscaped median traffic islands on Baldwin Park Blvd. from Ramona Blvd. to Live Oak Avenue. Continuous medians are pro- posed between Ramona Blvd. and Benbow Street and between Joan- bridge Street and Live Oak Avenue except for openings at street intersections and at two driveways on the westerly side of Baldwin Park Blvd. located between 270 ft. and 350 ft. northerly of the continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peWfl?g%. Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 5 northerly curb line of Ramona Blvd. The medians between Benbow Street and Joanbridge Street will only be constructed to fully delineate left turn pockets at street intersections. Street lights are proposed to be installed in the medians between Ramona Blvd. and Los Angeles Street. Also, a major portion of Baldwin Park Blvd. is to be resurfaced. Project P-141, Baldwin Park Blvd. between Merced Avenue and Bess Avenue, win consist of the construction of curbed and landscaped median traffic islands in Baldwin Park Blvd. from Merced Avenue to Bess Avenue. Continuous medians are proposed between Merced Avenue and Tracy Street and between Dalewood Street and Bess Avenue except for openings at street intersections and at major traffic carrying driveways on the easterly side of Baldwin Park Boulevard between Dalewood Street and Bess Avenue. Street lights are proposed to be installed in the medians for the length of the project. Also, the pavement south of Dalewood Street is proposed to be removed and reconstructed and areas north of the San Bernard!no Freeway are scheduled to be resurfaced. Both of these projects were reviewed pursuant to the Environmental Quality Act of 1970 and it was determined that they would have no significant adverse impact upon the environment. On March 18, 1975, a Determination of Non Major Action" for Project P-141 was prepared and submitted to both the State Department of Transportation and the Federal Highway Administration and on February 11, 1976 such a document was prepared and submitted for Project 138. This Determination of Non Major Action" for Project P-141 was prepared and submitted to both the State Department of Transportation and the Federal Highway Administration and on February 11, 1976 such a document was prepared and submitted for Project 138. This Determination of Non Major Action" states that tne project does not precipitate foreseeable alterations in land use; planned growth; development patterns; traffic volumes; travel patterns; transportation services, including public transportation and natural and man-made resources. No historical properties or archcieotogical sites listed in, or etigibh f-iT inclusion in, the National Register of Historic Places are affected by this action. Both the State and the /rnnt-inupd^ BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peccm 83 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 976 Page 6 Federal agencies concurred with the City's environmental findings. The Staff has prepared a tui-je map which is on the easel which illustrates in general the length of the project, the areas where either full or partial medians are proposed to be constructed, and also the section of Baldwin Park Blvd. which is presently improved with medians. An 8 1/2 x 11 sheet which identifies the same information as on the large map on the easel has been passed out to a11 members of the City Council this evening. At this time that is all the information i I have to present to the City Council. I am available to answer any \ further questions pertaining to the project. Councilman Blewett Mr. Mayor, I would like the Council to consider each project separately, so we know who is speaking on what. Mayor Waldo We will know when they give us the streets that they are talking about. Blewett I think it might be better if you did it separately. That way the people would I think it would be easier to understand. Do it any way-you want; it's just a suggestion. Mayor Waldo Mr. Lathrop, do I understand that we can hold P-138 and P-141 together as one public hearing? Lathrop This is one public hearing, but the projects can be considered separately or together, whichever is the desire of the City Council. Mayor Waldo Okay. gentlemen, what is your pleasure? Councilman Hamilton Mr. Mayor, I say, go ahead, we can consider them separate because if there is action taken, it will be all in one action anyway. There might be some on N. Baldwin Park Blvd. that have some different ideas than they would down south so you have Project P-138 first on the agenda here and then you have Project P-141, so I would \ open the public hearing on both and ask for testimony on P-138 first. Mayor Waldo Very well. Ladies and gentlemen, we will at this time open Public Hearings on P-138. We will ask those wishing to speak in PUB. HEARING P-138 OPENED favor of the project to step forward first and give your name and address, and please confine your comments to 5 minutes. Blewett Mr. Mayor, would you tell them where P-138 is, because some of the people might not have agenda sheets. Mayor Waldo Okay, they can see on the map there. P-138 is between Ramona Blvd. and Live Oak Avenue. continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹ 0perC07i84 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page? 7 TESTIMONY: Mr. Mayor, Gentlemen: l am Arthur Palmer, 14209 Demblon Blvd.. Ji.$t A. PALMER one block north of Los Angeles Street. On this median that we have there, we have an opening on all of this street here. Now from what I understand, we are going to be able to turn north or south. If I am coming from the north to n\y house let's say from Live Oak), can I turn left to go into my house and if I am going to come to Los Angeles, can I turn left also coming across coming south? Mayor Waldo Mr. Lathrop? Lathrop There will be an opening in the median at Demlon Street, yes sir. Palmer To turn both ways to turn right or left going north or coming south? Lathrop Yes, sir. Palmer Thank you very much. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr. Palmer. Mr. Mayor and Gentlemen of the Council: My name is Bud Horn. My address is 4191 Sharons l^ay in Baldwin Park. I am the owner/operator of the Park Bowling Center located on Baldwin Park Blvd. and Ramona Blvd. I understand I will have a cut for my two driveways so I can continue to turn left am I correct? Lathrop That's correct. Horn We have one problem that I would tike to call to everyone's attention. We have a crosswalk going from our eastern entrance, going across to the Morgan Park there. We have a problem in the respect that we have a lot of children using this crosswalk, and believe me, I have seen some very close calls in that area. Would 1t be possible to consider putting in some sort of safety, push- button traffic light for these pedestrians that use this area? With or without the median strip either way) Gentlemen, I would tike to have you look at that if you would, at some other time. Waldo Thank you, Mr. Horn. Blewett Mr. Mayor, would you refer that to the Traffic Committee? Mayor Waldo Yes, Mr. Sexton, would you handle that, please? Mr. Sexton Yes, sir. Mayor Waldo Very well. iNext? Duane Glass, 14345 E. c.: v Blvd., President of Glasstein Auto 0. GLASS Parts. I have been approached personally und also as a commissioner Continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹ 0pe000718S Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council by many people who hold property on both of these projects. They have asked for these medians to be denied, even though I realize that they are considerably built with federal funds. Construction of the medians ceases to allow the people to make left turns. They really are traffic control rather than traffic direction. of expecting people to direct cattle and shoep, but we usually paint lines on streets. People are supposed to be able to see well enough to read the lines on the streets and the signs on the streets and to know whether or not they can turn right or left. The construction of the medians effectively destroys any commercial property which would be between the allowed left turns. It also causes the drivers of the vehicles to make U" turns where they would be making a left turn. I can't spend five minutes discussing the relative safety of a left turn versus a U" turn. The Police don't like U" turns at a11. The medians seem to be only a make work" project. I think they could far better use the money even if they fed some of the people in the country that are hungry. I realize that the turn down" of these two projects would result in a loss of money for the City of Baldwin Park. If the turn down of this money for the projects in Baldwin Park would also save the City money in maintaining the grass and the trees which also seem to grow in those medidians and it would also probably cause a few less accidents with the grass piled alongside the meridians with traffic barriers around while they are mowing said grass. I do not believe in traffic control; I believe in traffic direction. I would tike no action taken on these two projects until I can get back to the people with the feeling of the relative Council members. I think if action is necessary in court, it will be taken. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Anyone else wishing to speak? Voice is it alright to speak in opposition of?) Mayor Waldo Not yet. They are speaking in favor of. Is there ariyone else wishing to speak in favor of? Very well, then, I will ask for those to speak in opposition. I'm sorry. September 1. 1976 Page 8 Raul Zayas, 12815 Finchley, Baldwin Park. I am speaking in opposition of R. ZAYAS P-138 and P-141. My question is why build when the street has no use for the islands for these meridians. Thare is a greater need for im- provement in other parts of the city that have as much, if not more Continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007188 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1. 1976 traffic in other parts of the City. By avoiding more important areas page 9 that could be improved, it is the cause of blight. Now blight is not an empty lot, vandalized buildings, and dead end streets. These are the symptoms. The cause is neglect. Now neglect to the experts is called a border vacuum and begin by dividing the City and its neighborhoods. The divisions hurt business and the residences. These divisions caused by neglect create more neglect. Neighborhoods are divided and vacuums have spread; more border vacuums are created until the City dies of complete and willful neglect. Using money and building up areas that do not need improvement cause other areas to become neglected. These neglected areas are the blight. I ask you are you improving the City where it needs it most or causing blight by your neglect? Here is a case in point. You can travel between Francisquito and San Bernardino Freeway on Frazier Street and you wilt notice there are no curbs and no sidewalks and the street is in need of repair. It is slowly becoming a full fledged border vacuum. The character of the neighborhood is changing on either side of that street in that area. At one time it was one neighborhood; now it is split, creating two distinct neighborhoods. Vandalizm has and will increase. Soon build- ings will become more delapidated than they are now and no doubt the Police will have to increase their surveillance if they have not already done so. In the winter, children attending schools in that area must, when it is raining, make a choice between walking in the puddles in the street and take a chance of being hit by automobiles, or walk on the shoulder in the mud. Neglect of this area is creating blight. To wait until it is fully blighted is foolish and costly. Neglect will affect the schools, the homes and what little business still remains in that area. It is up to you, the City Council, to delegate improvement where it is needed. You are accountable to the people. Beautify the City some other time; right now improve the areas that need improvement. foolishly Using money from the tax fund or any other fund/may not be illegal but it is unwise. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition to? Robert Hickock, 14203 Cloverside, Baldwin Park. I listened to this R_ HICKOCK conversation outside the door and I didn't hear a whole lot of represent- atives for this project here wore 3 nr 4 people against it, and I, Continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹ 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹ 0pe0007188 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page n years ago, many of the homeowners asked for the repair of Baldwin Park Blvd. Ldrive that street every time I have to come out of my house and the street is somewhat repaired. I am wondering if we realty need median strips? I do agree with the gentleman from the Park Bowl that that crosswalk is a necessity. I believe that it was created after the death I know of one woman and several children years ago that crosswalk from the Bowl to the Park. I think that a traffic signal there might not be in the plans but it is something very important to think about. I know when you come down and anyone driving it I have to stop pretty well every time for someone in that crosswalk. Mayor Waldo Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition? P-138. Tom Carpenter, 4346 Jerry. Ladies and gentlemen, for over 4 years now 7. CARPENTER I have got up and opposed this in the Planning Commission, the Council and all over. It came up originally just to take the median from Ramona to Los Angeles. As I recall, Mr. Blewett and the old gentleman in the Planning Commission had property and I know that they were in agreement to put that safe lane after Merced so that they could get into their property. I am talking about the gentleman that has many pieces of property, not just necessarily Mr. Blewett. But for that whole strip there is a safe lane that everybody can go in and out of and they can not do that, gentlemen, with a strip. You have exactly the same problem that you have on Ramona. I went over this very thoroughly over the years. Mr. Waldo knows very much, because before he was elected we went into this many, many times. The center strip is not needed. I have here in front of me, revised January 1975, the Gas Tax expenditures for streets and roads. There are many things that can be done besides this. In fact, there are extensions of pages of it. One of them is the installations of/curbs, gutters, sidewalks drains, and so on. This is from Kenneth Cory, State Controller. I think it is the latest. I had jne previous to that 4 1/2 years ago. Now it is damn foolishness to put a center strip up Baldwin Park Blvd. toward Live Oak that goes noplace. There isn't even a road up there. We went into this before. It was considered that first they would have rock gardens and then they got away from the rock gardens because they wanted grass, and it was decided that it would cost at that early date $2000 a month maintenance and upkeep for the lights, water, the watering) and a11 the other things. I am not now even considering the fact that you are cutting Continiit-cO BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007189 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1. 1976 pa/in 1 0 off all these people's entrances to their homes that they now have 9 all the way up Baldwin Park Blvd., including Mr. Blewett's, incidentally. and the apartment houses that belong to this other gentleman. A11 the way up now I am speaking on both projects, because I think that both of them are pertinent you are putting one project your projects now extend from one boundary of the City over past the United Parcel all the way to Live Oak, and at the time the upkeep was a-round $2000 to carry it beyond Los Angeles. God knows what it will cost now. How many people you will have to hire that will be with us forever, mowing lawns, picking up weeds and doing alt the things that you have to do to those center strips, and they win be there until they retire. You will have rows of them up and down these miles of streets. I think that over the years you have proliferated this thing from just that little bit which went to Los Angeles all the way from one boundary to the other. The money you can use this money for all the things that are called out under Kenneth Cory's listing, and I am sure that the federal government goes along with the State. We have absolutely no use for a center strip other than to beautify the City. The people along this route don't even have grass in their yards, let alone sidewalks. One of the big issues that I had with one of the gentlemen, to wit, Mr. Waldo, before he was elected and we agreed on it) and this has been 3 1/2 years ago or 2 1/2 years ago). I wanted to have a campaign to put sidewalks I just read it to you out of the law) and curbs and gutters. That was fine and I think it is still fine, because on all these thorough- fares that come in off the freeway, people are walking around cars in 45-mile traffic and believe me, it's not safe. Now the first thing that we've got to think about is our people. The heck with alt this beautifkation. This money has been set aside for whatever you want to use it for. You have yone ahead and developed your plans, and if I am correct, you have already made up your minds. It says the hearing is required to explain the proposed project and requires testimony. After consideration of the testimony, plans and specifications will be completed. Now what in the heck are we even here for? You have been developing this for 4 1/2 years your mind is made up your plans are pretty well completed you know what you are going to do and now you are calling us up here S-'-T / because you have to. But I think it has to go further, because as one gentleman said we don't want it. And I PrtM+i ntio/< BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007190 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1,1976 if you insist on putting it in, we wilt take it to court. I think I heard age him correctly and I think that is a heck of a good idea. Put in these sidewalks and do everything in the world that is in this book you can for the people of Baldwin Park before you go and hire a flock of people to pull up grass, mow lawns 1-ights, cut off everybody's access to their properties and businesses KHI the businesses and all the things you are trying to do to beautify it and to get yourself a name. I'm with the man and I think his name is Mr. Glass); I heartily agree with him and^ I heartily agree with Mr. Raul Zayas) and everybody that is against it and I'm telling you I have developed a11 the information which I will certainly submit to the people in order to get other things beside this. I have worked 4 1/2 years on it and I am very happy to be able to do that and I ask you, don't push this down our throats. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr. Carpenter. Councilman Kitchel Mayor Waldo, I think as a point of clarification to clarify misconceptions created by Mr. Carpenter, we ought to refer to Mr. Lathrop concerning the etegibility of these funds in that they can't be used just at random throughout the community. I think he should clarify that point. Mayor Waldo We will probably get to that. Councilman Kitchel No, I think it should be brought up, simply because there might be people in the audience who who would think that this money can be spent that way and I think Mr. Lathrop ought to clear that up before anybody else Mayor Waldo Do you mind waiting a minute, ma'am? White we ask Mr. Lathrop to explain that? Mr. Lathrop Mr. Mayor, I should have brought this out in ny testimony and I apologize. It was an oversight on my part. The projects North and South Baldwin Park Blvd. are to be funded Q3% by Federal Aid Urban Funds allocated to the City of Baldwin Park and 7% Gas Tax Funds. The Federal Aid Urban Funds can. only be expended upon a special system of streets in the community called the 1980 Functional Usage System. Mayor Waldo Explain that. Do you mean that is major arteries or Lathrop This system consists of major arterials, minor arterials, and collector streets. The streets we are talking about are streets like Baldwin Park Blvd., Rcimona Blvd., Los Angeles Street, Olive Street, J. LATHROP RE USE OF FUNDS Merced Avenue streets in this category dud there is discretion about Continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe00071^1 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 spending these funds or doing improvements on minor streets and constructing sidewalks on such minor streets. This cannot be done, but this is inform- ation I think should be brought out for the Council's information and for the information in the audience. Mayor Waldo Thank you. I'm sorry, Mr. Carpenter, now you have had your time. You can get up on P-141. Carpenter on the arteries is all I talked about. Mayor Waldo Now, ma'am, I'm sorry that Mrs.Blanche Scott3522 Baldwin Park Blvd. I am going to challenge that. g^ SCOTT It is about time that somebody thought about beautifying this City clapping unintelligible) between the freeway and Merced as long as it is continued from Ramona to Merced, why not continue it to the Freeway? It is about time everyplace you go it is a blighted area because the people are so slack they don't dean up their places. Anybody can turn the place into a ghetto if they don't take care of 1t. I have taken care of rr^y place for 20 years and it looks like the best kept up place on Baldwin Park Blvd. Mayor Waldo Thank you, ma'am. Thank you very much. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition to P-138? Hall ie Slater, 4814 N. Stancroft I have one very good reason why I object to the median strip any place. It happened just the other day and I know it is happening every since the median strip was put in on Ramona Blvd. I saw a person who I don't know if he lives in town or where he came from) went to turn off Baldwin Park Blvd. onto Ramona and got into the westbound lanes of traffic coming towards him and that is a very dangerous situation. Now my husband, when they first put in the median strip, he didp't know he hadn't been down there to see a darn thing and he got on that it's the same thing and to me this is an extremely dangerous situation. I don't disagree with beautifying the City, but first I think we ought to think about the safety; I think we ought to think about putting the dollar where it will do the most good and then if we have money left over after taking care of all the necessary evils and good, then think about beautifying the City. but not with the median strips, because they are dangerous. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you. Anyone else? Very well, I win close the PUBLIC HEARING P-138 CLOSED Public Hearing on P-138 and I will open the Public Hearing on P-141 and PUBLIC HEARING ask a11 those wishing to speak in favor to step forward first. There P-141 OPENED C< uinued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007193 1 September 1, 1976 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Counci Page 15 is nobody wishing to speak in favor, so I wi11 ask those in opposition to P-141 to step forward. Jay Angelo, Realtor, 3123 Baldwin Park Blvd. For a number of years we J. ANGELO have been trying to bring some business along Baldwin Park Blvd. down near the tower end. We were darn near successful, but unfortunately it was dropped because of not enough saturation in the area. But that has been a few years back. Now we are beginning to build some new homes and population is growing and especially from Merced Ave. to the Freeway there are just a few small businesses and there are possibilities of more businesses, so let's not throw a stumbling block in the possible future of that area to"* business enterprise. I am not particularly interested in my own property; I mean, if they are looking for a real estate man they will find one, but these small businesses that depend upon traffic let's not stop them from getting any more customers, which they are very few as they are. So I am opposed to P-141 as far as from Merced to the Freeway. I do hope that you use that other money for some other wise things or'purpose. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you. Tom Cotwick, 3706 N. Puente, B.P. I don't know where to start, so guess T. COLWICK I wi11 start at the beginning. I own the corner of Baldwin Park Blvd. and I am here with rny cottegue, Mr. Metsger, and Mr. Ireland and my son Roy, and we are deeply involved in this. As I said, I will start at the beginning. Twelve years ago, I purchased approximately 10 houses on this corner and as the tady said, they were blighted they were in one he11 of a shape. They were blighted. I had to have demolition crews and everything and my tate partner and I built a service station there. We have 13613 Francisquito, 13619, and 3202 and 3216 Baldwin Park Blvd. with 5 retail units there. Wo have spent 1/2 million dollars in putting this together. I have lived here 50 years to do this and everybody at the time said how good it looked. I'm sick. I'm just sick from the whole thing. At one time-it should be a proven fact and I've talked individually to anyone who would listen to me and I will continue to do same until rny last breath. Four or five years ago or 6 or 7 I don't remember what it was) there were double-double tines put in not in the abutment but in the center of the road but double-double tines and we tost 25% of our r-ustness and it took us 2 or 3 years to get these erased, I believe is the word, through politics of yours and the continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007193 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September T, 1976 Page 16 State and every matter that we could go to. When these were erased, they immediately came oack so what I am here saying, in essence, is in my case and this involves every person in this room also if this happens we will not only lose more than 25% in dollars this amounts to $50,000 a year in the taxpayer's money. You would say and I have heard it in here tonight), the State of California federally funded money if you don't use it here. you lose it. So what, for Christ's sake lose it. This is our property, our taxes. We pay them in the first place and we are the ones that are going to have to maintain it in the future. I am sick of this whole thing. We don't want it. I don't know what else we have to do other than get a club to tell you. You have a man here tonight with petitions. I haven't seen anyone that was genuinely for it. The man at the bowling alley he has 2 drive ins to get in fine sure. I am here for mine, but the tax- payers and the people in this audience are going to lose at a minimum of $50,000 a year in tax payers money, taxes that aren't collected that they wilt get now. I could just go on and on and on. It boils down to the fact that we, as the taxpayers who pay the bills and as the businessmen from one end to the other, we do not want any part of it and we feel that you are shoving it right down our throats and I don't know what we will have to do, but we wilt do it, if that is the case, and thanks for listening. Gair R. QAIR Robert Gappett, 3714 North Maine I have a piece of property on 6ARftCT- Batdwin Park Blvd. 3425 just developed into a business about 5 months ago so while I agree with what everyone else has said here tonight, I won't bore you by repeating the same thing, but simply to say that I mean to serve the force of self interest and to survive. My business is located such that those people turning left are 25% of my business coming from those that are turning left off Baldwin Park Blvd. If the median strip is put in, they will have to go up and U" turn at, I believe Monterey Avenue, and come back. I am about half way between Merced and Francisquito. There are no other businesses around me. I am the first one there. My neighbor is beginning to develop his business, hopefully, and hopefully there will be some more businesses develop on the property next to mine. But if this median strip is placed in there where no left turns an' ni'^ed, I can't see much future for it. That is all I have to say. continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007194 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 17 Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr. Garrett. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition? Dick Metzer, 3216 Baldwin Park Blvd. I don't know how many people are D. METZER aware of the situation of operating a business after dark. If these islands are put in and we have to call the Police and they are coming down Baldwin Park Blvd., there-win be no access into our particular parking areas and I am just exactly the same as the guy that owns the Bowling Alley if there was a turn available to get into our driveway, where we could get very prompt service from the Police Department, I think that would be fine, but we are in a situation that every other night, at least, we have to call on the Police, and I realize there is probably not enough of them to go around or to do the job. If you have any excess money I would put it down for having extra Police officers. Mayor Waldo Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition to P-141? Bill Ireland 3216 Baldwin Park Blvd. Putting islands down Baldwin Park B. IRELAND Blvd. I don't think is going to beautify the City. There are so many other places that just fixing the road will beautify it. Francisquito is a mess a11 the way down Francisquito is a mess Merced is a mess. Baldwin Park Blvd. is 10 times better than Merced or Francisquito. I can name half a dozen streets. Why spend more money on Baldwin Park Blvd. where it isn't needed, when we can spend some of it on one of these other streets where this gentleman here said we can't do? Now the Police, that could mean one of our lives. It has been just that dose a few times 1f they c.outdn't turn in. This is something that we have to live with not only business wise we will probably lose some business) but it probably wouldn't be as bad as this other gentleman that is halfway down the street. The money just the upkeep of this would pay for another Police officer and probably two. Or we could just use the money to fix the roads. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you, sir. My name is Frank Mamone and I live 3427 Baldwin Park Blvd. and I have p. MAMONE several subjects I wanted to discuss, but fortunately four or five other people spoke on the subject and they covered it very well. They echo rny sentiments exactly the way I wanted to say it. The only other thing I want to say is that I think the center divider or center strips, or whatever you wd-a to call them if you install these, it is going to create a very unsafe condition. I'll cite an example rrwHnup/n BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe06G7i9S Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 18 down here on Ramona Blvd. The run off from the sprinklers was so heavy that it inundated the street there. I was following another car and the spray from the car ahead of me was so great that I had to turn iriy windshield wipers on. I can go back a few years in this City rnyself and I recall when they had traffic islands down here on Merced right by Baldwin Park Blvd. there which they subsequently removed because of auto- mobiles hitting these islands in the center of the street. They also had traffic islands down here at Francisquito and Baldwin Park Blvd. which they subsequently removed because of unsafe conditions. And this is the thing I want to stress that these are, in my opinion, very unsafe situations these center dividers. You can't cross the street I know, because I go to St. John's Church and you can not see an automobile coming down the street because of the trees that are planted on that center divider. That is all I have to say. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Mr. Mayor, Honorable Council I'm Cory Tackitt. I live on 13930 East c. TACKITT Merced, Baldwin Park Blvd. I'm the one that took the survey, or the poll on the petition, to find out how the residents in my area felt about it. I got 103 signatures against it, 1 resident abstained to comnent, 3 were in favor of it and 32 were not available for comment. I wasn't able to contact them. That was only from Merced Avenue to the Freeway but beyond that I don't know so much about it. As it is now, that median has a divided line where the residents can use that for a left hand turn into their driveway or coming out of their driveway to keep from having to make the U" turns, which is the most hazardous turn to negotiate, s it is, that is not only a safety zone for us for the residents but we can also, in an emergency for the emergency vehicles, fire and ambulance) proceed down through that where the traffic won't permit them to go otherwise. It is also detrimental to the business community already established there, to say nothing of the prospects of future business moving in there, because of the inaccessability to the- business. The little shopping center Continued; BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007196 Regular Meeting of the baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 19 at Baldwin Park Blvd. and Merced is a good example of this. It has hurt every business where this median has been installed, from what I have learned from the business owners of establish- ments that I have contacted, and we urge you to not install that because we need that safety zone rather than to have to make the U" turns. Not only that, but it is unnecessary money to be spent. The other gentleman that spoke a few minutes ago said if we have to lose it, lose it, rather than to shove something down our throats that we don't want and don't need." It will be to our disadvantage. If that money can't be used for anything else, why use it all? We taxpayers have paid in that money and created that amount of money, and why should we spend it a11 when it can be spent to an advantage, because that money, once it is spent, wi11 have to be replaced and it will come out of our paychecks and out of our property taxes and somehow it is going to have to be replenished from taxes and we don't need anymore taxes than we already have. We have enough property taxes. Mr. Mayor, Councilmen, Ralph IHingsworth is the name. 3342 Baldwin Park Blvd. People Reporter, May 19, said that you approved $241,000 for this project and you approved signing of the papers. I received notice that you had this meeting August 10th I received the notice). It is September 1st. I would like to know whether this has been approved and signed at this time. Mayor Waldo Mr. Lathrop, would you explain that, please? Mr. Lathrop The plans have been signed by myself some time ago. That is correct. However, the project has not been approved. The plans have been submitted to the State of California for review by CALSTRANS, by Federal Highway Administration, and they advised us that they would withhold approval until there had been a public hearing conducted on the project and a11 testimony had been received. Mr. Illingworth A1! 1 Thank you. Flood control. Did you know that Baldwin Park Blvd. was the drain to the Freeway? continued) R.ILLINGSWORTH MR. LATHROP RE PLANS R.ILLINGSWORTH BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peooowy Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council I have seen that. I have lived there since 1948. I was there when the old road was I was there when they put this new road in before 1965. When it rains, that street is covered before my house, and most of the way from Merced to the Freeway from gutter to gutter. Now, you put a median down there and there is no way an emergency vehicle is going to get down that street if it rains. So that means you have to put catch basins into every street, which is not in this particular plan. Safety U" turns are bad very bad. Cost to maintain it would take from 4 to 5 men on that end only all that you have to maintain it. You already have accounted for 5 on the tittle one you have now. Taxes either oroperty is going to go up on so-called evaluation or I'm going to pay more taxes to maintain it. Cost $241,000 to the City. Fine 83%. It don't cost me a nickel, what do you mean, it don't cost me a nickel. I paid the 83%. Now, that's it. Thank you, gentlemen. Mayor Waldo Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? My name is Edwin Elko. I own property on 3437, 3439 and 3441 Baldwin Park Blvd. and I am definitely against the raised median strip. I want to leave it as it is. I think it is much better as it is without that median raised strip. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr. Elko. Anyone else wishing to speak. Cory Tackitt I forgot to mention that the City Clerk has the petition. Mayor Waldo Thank you. Jim Garrow, 1011 North Baldwin Park Blvd. Honorable Mayor and Honorable Members of the Council. There is no question that from Dalewood to the City limits, Baldwin Park Blvd. needs to be paved. On our side of the street it hasn't been paved for almost 17 years. That has held up very good. That was put in by the County. On the other side of the street there have been lots of problems and they are out Continued) September 1, 1976 Page 20 E. ELKO C. TACKITT RE PETITION J. GARROW BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peC007198 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 21 there every couple of months. There are deep holes and they are spraying under one of the places that wasn't capped and pipes break and this and that. So please, pave the street. And when you pave it, do like the County did and dig it a11 out like Mr. Lathrop did down on Bess Avenue. I guess it was the other guy, but he did a good job. Did you do it? Mr. Lathrop Mr. Perry did it. Mr. Garrow Yes, Mr. Perry. He did a wonderful job. He went way down to the base, pulled out old cables put in 50 years ago, and it is a beautiful street Bess Avenue. I have talked to Mr. Smatlwood, who 1s the Divisional Manager of United Parcel Service of Southern California. I have talked to the president of Utility Trailer, and as far as we are concerned, the show entrance is down on Bess Avenue, so it wouldn't affect us too much. There has been no accidents since we have had the center dividers. It has worked out wonderful. There are 80 long haul trailers and trucks moving in. They come off the Freeway off the San Bernardino Freeway) and they stand in the center. The tittle trucks come and stand in the center. Me haven't had a single accident ever since that United Parcel has come in there. If you put in dividers, the big trucks are going to have to come down and have to turn at the corner of Bess. This is really going to give some problems, to my mind. I have been very much against the center dividers in this commercial area. We have 16,000 cars a day going up and down there and a large number of them are trucks coming off the 605 Freeway and going back up on the San Bernardino Freeway. It win make it easier and better and there are lots of trucks from all those industries down there. So I would plead with you to pave the street because it needs it very, very badly. And I am speaking only from Dalewood to the City limits. I think that the City of industry doosn' ivo any deal-, 11k" this. continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007199 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 22 It is really going to cause a problem down there on the corner of Bess Avenue. You have almost 5,500 cars coming out of Bess Avenue every day Frazier/Bess offramp, so please give it every consideration. Please do not put in a center divider because those great big trucks they wi11 have to expand the driveways at United Parcel Service. 1 talked with both of these people. They haul these big, heavy utility these earth moving machines. They bring them in and many of them come up from the south and come down from the north. They won't be able to swing into the driveways. They will have to move their fences over for those big trucks to bring them in. So please, I'm not speaking for the rest of the City. I'm only speaking It doesn't affect the theatre whatsoever, as people have plenty of room to go down and go in on Bess, but believe me, this is going to cause a terrific disruption. So please, from Dalewood down, please let's have no center dividers. Thank you. Mayor Waldo Thank you, sir. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition? Mi Hi cent Beach, 3352 Baldwin Park Blvd. Everyone has said everything I would like to say but I would like for it to be on record anyway. The safety if the center dividers were put in, the lights would be stuck in the middle of them. It would give us no protection. Where the lights are now, it is already a prowler's haven." All of Baldwin Park Blvd. I'm just against it all the way. Mayor Waldo Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition to P-141? Tom Carpenter, 4346 Jerry, against P-141. I have listened to this and it is wonderful. Before Mr. Waldo was elected, we discussed this at great length and one of the things that I asked Mr. Waldo 1f he would do was for God's sakes to cut out that center strip. continued) M. BEACH T. CARPENTER BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peRegular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Mayor Waldo And what did I tell you I would do? Mr. Carpenter You totd me. I'm not going to put in sidewalks,when some poor little old lady had to put in one on the side street. That is what you told me. Mayor Waldo Did I te11 you I was for it or against it? The center dividers I am talking about. Mr. Carpenter You didn't say one way or the other. Mayor Waldo Oh, yes, I did. Mr. Carpenter You said you-were for it, finally. Mayor Waldo I did. Mr. Carpenter You were against it. You even wanted me to take pictures of people pushing baby buggies around the cars. Mayor Waldo That was in another area of town that you don't know. Mr. Carpenter Oh, come on. Don't give me that. Now, let me have my say. I have here page after page of things that can be done and we don't need to throw that Mayor Waldo Mr. Carpenter, please talk into the mike so they can hear you out there. Mr. Carpenter I am. Can you hear me back there? Fine. This is what you asked. Amongst these things in the State there are pages of these things. The thing that I want more than anything you are not going to use up near all that money on the thoroughfares and Mr. Lathrop confirmed it-is exactly what we are talking about You picked these center strips for beauty and you are going to have lots of people working on them and I don't want that and I don't think anybody else wants it. Even Mr. Eiko I didn't hear Mr. Blewett testify. Maybe he will get his chance. The double strip and the safe, open island that goes up there can not be beat. You run those islands up and down Baldwin Park Boulevard from one end to the other and your people are going to be happy. Continued) September 1. 1976 Page 23 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007201 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 24 You take the money and you use it for such things as, I say curbs and gutters, so people don't have to walk in that high speed traffic out in the street, because there are not sidewalks. It can be done. Curbs, gutters, sidwa1ks» under drains oh, the other gentleman placing sufficient material on a11 surface or gravel streets to substantially improve the quality I think Garrow said that) and improvement of the surface I could go on and on underground!ng of utility lines. There are many things, but let's get the sidewalks first. Now forget a11 the rest with that broken line and safe island all the way from one boundary of Baldwin Park to another. Let people go in and out of their homes just exactly the way they are doing on Baldwin Park Blvd. and continue it all the way to Live Oak. Put in the sidewalks, put in the curbs where you need them and that isn't going to hurt the little old ladies. It is going to make the people safe. Do some of these other things. I would suggest that you get a committee and let's see if the people would like to go for this. And take the State requirements here for that type of money and I know that the Federal government will go along with it. I'm positive. And pick out the things that the people need the most. We don't need any center strips. Forget that. You heard that all over. You heard that for years. And decide what you are going to do to help the people of Baldwin Park. I mean, the people, and don't throw the money away because you don't have to. It isn't only building a center strip. You can do many, many other things that you want and I ask you not to get a committee I ask you to get a committee of the people that are against it not the ones that are for it, because there is nobody for it except you, as far as I can see. So get the people that don't want this thing and let them go over the list and see all of the things that they can make and then take votes on it and decide what the people continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007202 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council want to spend the mone^ for for Baldwin Park. And once you do that, gentlemen, people will like you. Mayor Waldo I doubt that, Mr. Carpenter. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition? Blanche Scott Mr. Carpenter spoke here several times. I think I am entitled to several times. Mayor Waldo Well, this is a different meeting so you can speak, ma'am. Blanche Scott Is this closed already? Mayor Waldo Oh no, no, no. You may speak. Blanche Scott He talks about curbs and sidewalks. As I recall, I paid for my own curbs and sidewalks. Why should' the City have to pay and use that money for curbs and sidewalks? This money was appropriated to beautify our City and to make an impression, but when people go by they can see the beautiful street that goes into the Civic Center and it will encourage business. Maybe we won't have so many empty buildings. Mayor Waldo Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else wishing to speak on P-141? Duane Glass I spoke at P-138 and you already have my address. I requested the Councilman that he bring forth the fact that the money couldn't be spent anywhere else but I just heard Mr. Carpenter, whom I seem to be in the very unusual position of agreeing with today although I agree with almost everything else that he does), but can this money be spent anywhere else but on the meridians? Mayor Waldo Mr. Lathrop? Mr. Lathrop The Federal funding can be spend on any street that is eligible for Federal funds any major arterial, minor arterial or collector street, which would constitute about 25-30^ of the street mileage in the City. And it can be spent for other purposes than median construct- ion and landscaping, yes sir. Continued) September 1, 1976 Page 25 B. SCOTT B. SCOTT D. GLASS MR. LATHROP RE: USE OF FUNDS BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peOQW2Q3 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Duane Glass Would you please enumerate the things that it can be spent on besides medians? I was under the im- pression that if you didn't build the median, you had to give the money back. Mr. Lathrop These funds, on the eligible streets, can be expended for street construction, street upgrading, land- scaping, medians, street lighting, sidewalks, curbs, gutters, storm drains undergrounding no, sir. Duane Glass No, sir? Mr. Lathrop No, sir. Duane Glass The reason I ask is because still some of the people were discussing that it could be used else- where. I was under the mistaken impression that it could not. Perhaps you don't think we need these major streets, any streets, sidewalks or gutters. You could maybe remove the median with the money that you have already put down Ramona Blvd., because many of the people just heard about these two projects and raced in here to oppose them. I sat here through other meetings where people who have large businesses Park Bowl, for instance) I have no opposition to Park Bowl I eat there, I drink coffee there but he has two entrances to his business, because he is an important business. But a gas station is an important business. It produces at 30,000 gallons a month an enormous amount of sales tax revenue to this City. If a gas station doesn't get the same treatment as the Park Bowl; if the gas station doesn't get the same treatment as the theatre; if the gas station doesn't get the same treatment as United Parcel, you have blown your whole fiduciary as officers and elected officials of the City. It takes a whole lot more strength of character to pick out the little projects that need to be done. They won't show up Continued) September 1, 1976 Page 26 D. GLASS MR. LATHROP D, GLASS BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0pe0007204 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 27 as much, but will make a lot more people happy. These center meridians really stand out, but they stand out because they are really in everybody's way. They cost a lot of money to build and they cost a lot of money to maintain. I think that the Staff should be directed to looking into alternative uses for the money on the eligible streets, and I don't think any street should ever get a meridian that doesn't have a sidewalk. Councilman Btewett I might add something to what Mr. Glass said. Those service stations also are the ones that provide the gas tax money to build the meridians. Mayor Waldo Is there anyone else wishing to speak? Voice from audience) I would like to ask one question. It seems to me that somewhere during this meeting somebody was told that this money couldn't be used for anything but this median. Mayor Waldo No, sir, that 1s not the case. Voice) Are you sure that isn't in writing? Now it comes out it can be used for anything, after Mr. Carpenter got up and said it could. Mayor Waldo No, sir, that has never been the case. Voice) I think in the minutes of this meeting you will find that somebody said that it couldn't be used for other than what you said Mayor Waldo I think somebody said it out there, but I don't think it was said here. Voice) No, I don't think so. I think Mr. Carpenter will verify that. Councilman Kitchel Mr. Waldo, I think we ought to refer that question back to Mr. Lathrop as it pertains to the information presented by Mr. Carpenter, because I think there is a discrepancy there. Mr. Lathrop Well, Mr. Mayor, the rules and regulations that Mr, Carpenter cited regarding the expenditure of funds pertains to the expenditure of Gas Tax funds and everything that he said in that respect was valid. However, these regulations do continued) J. LATHROP RE: FUNDS BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peOOOTZOS Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council not necessarily apply *o the expenditure of Federal Aid funding, from which these projects, if they are built, would be funded at the extent of 83%. There are similarities between the ex- penditure of Federal Aid Funds and Gas Tax Funds, but the rules are not identical. Mayor Waldo Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak in opposition? If not, I will close the public hearing on P-141 Oh. Okay. I'll reopen it again. Bertha Regus, 1513 Cutler Street I am opposed to using the money for the medians. I have seen numerous accidents just recently one, especially, on Baldwin Park Blvd. just beside the church. There were 3 wreckers and a couple of ambulances there to take them away, so I know that many people are opposed to them that can't get here to voice their opinion. And aside from that, if the little old ladies' taxes that own homes in Baldwin Park are not reduced, I am afraid they will do more than having to pose for garbage can eating. They will be out there really eating out of garbage cans and hope they can get a little bit. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mrs. Regus. Okay, if there is nobody else, I will then close the Public Hearing on P-141. Now, if I understand correctly, Mr. Lathrop, the public has 10 days more in which they can voice their opinion in writing. Mr. Lathrop That is correct. Anybody in the community that wishes to submit reports, charts, diagrams they must do so within the next 10 days from this evening's meeting and following the termination of the 10-day period, the City Council, after Weighing all the facts, wilt make a decision in this matter. Mr. Carpenter and Voice from audience Would you repeat that? We didn't hear that last part. Mr. Lathrop After 10 days from this evening, whenever everyone has had an ample opportunity to file with the City continued) September 1, 1976 Page 28 PUBLIC HEARING P-141 CLOSED MR. LATHROP RE 10-DAY PERIOD TO SUBMIT INFO, BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹0peOC0720C Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Counci September 1, 1976 Page 29 the City Clerk reports, charts, diagrams pertaining to this projects, either in favor of or in opposition to then the Public Hearing will be closed and the City Council will then have an opportunity to make a decision in regard to the project, either in favor of or in opposition to. Councilman Aguilar Mr. Lathrop, is it possible to have another public hearing after the 10 days? Mr. Lathrop The regulations provided the City by the Federal Highway Administration do not call for a second public hearing; the one Public Hearing which we are holding this evening is sufficient. The 10-day period following the Public Hearing is mandatory, and if the City Council wishes to follow this procedure, then the next City Council Meeting the decision can be handed down, based upon a11 testimony received this evening and any documents, reports, etc. that may be received within 10 days. Councilman Aguilar So if we decide to have another Hearing say, next Council Meeting we could do it then. Mr. Lathrop The Public Hearing can be held over, yes sir. Mrs. Gibson called out of order for asking question) Mayor Waldo No, no, Mrs. Gibson, please, you are out of order. You can't do that, Mrs. Gibson. You know you can't do that. Please. If you wanted to ask a question you could have gotten up during the Public Hearing. I'm sorry I cannot allow that. You can come in and ask a question, or you can call in and ask questions, but we11, we wilt hear this again at our next Council Meeting. Whether the public meeting wilt be open at that time I don't know, but you wilt have it win be up to the Council but you wi11 have plenty of time to ask a question. I'm sorry, ma'am. Now you know the rules, Mrs. Gibson. Follow by the rules. Mrs. Gibson, I'm asking you, and I am warning you this meeting wi11 not be disrupted. Now please, follow the rules, Now, gentlemen, do you wish to talk about it some more now? continued) COUNCILMAN AGUILAR COUNCIL DECISION 9/15/76 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹ 0pe000720^ Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Councilman Aguitar My personal view would be to wait for 10 days and wait until the next Council Meeting and have another Public Hearing and get all the facts. Councilman Btewett Well, I have some comments to make. Lots of comments. Number 1, I think there have been several factors brought up. The fact is that a petition has been circulated and a majority of the people do not want it, and supposedly we are representatives. I must admit that the only person that I found that was really for it was my dear neighbor, Mrs. Scott, who does keep a very beautiful yard. I wonder if I will be allowed to walk past it after this meeting. First of alt, though, before I do any discussion on this, I want to make a disclosure. Number 1, I have lived on Baldwin Park Blvd. for 32 years, which probably makes me the senior resident in the room or dose to it, except for Jim Garrow I forgot). The City Attorney said that I should announce that I do live on the Blvd. but he said no way does that preclude me from participation as a Councilman'in the decision-making process. First of all, I don't favor the median strip because and I guess if they put the median strip in probably I guess you could say it would increase the value of ny property so I am against increasing the vctlue of my property so I take a rather unselfish view from that standpoint. But I think there are a couple of important questions. We have a couple of fledgling businessmen out here new business- men that just started that have very unique circumstances their businesses are off of the corner and they are depend- ent very much on traffic coming from the freeway and they are both in the restaurant business. One of them is a new businessman that owns Troy Boy Hamburgers and the other one owns Gair's Henhouse. I think quite frankly that this City would be in the position of putting them both out of business if we construct the median strips as shown here. continued) September 1, 1976 Page 30 COUNCILMAN BLEWETT BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹!0pe0007208 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Secondly, the factor of safety. I know I am the father of having those lines broken in the middle of the street and it came about because of two things. I am going back in history. One reason those tines were broken was because I almost got rear ended, quite frankly, making a U" turn and I thought, gee, it's stupid to go down to an inter- section to make a U" turn when all you have is an invisible tine in front of you and you can turn over it. The second thing was that one of my neighbors got a ticket from the CHP and he came over and raised heck with me for the fact that we have those tines solid and made it illegal to make that turn. It seemed kind of stupid, so we broke the tine and it was kind of a trial thing and I think the accidents went down on the Boulevard. I think it became safer. I know that you have heard reports from the businessmen as to what it has done to their business. I invite each of the Council- men to take a,tittle sojourn down there to talk to each businessman that has been there any length of time and ask them what effect it had on their business, because it has had a positive effect breaking those tines. And my gosh, we talk on this Council about wanting business and striving for business. Well, I think it is our incumbent responsibility to take care of the businesses that we have in this community and I think putting a divider in would hurt them. There is just absolutely no question in my mind about that. I think it is desirable to have beauty, but there has been a tendency in this City budget and I invite each Councilman to go back and do a study of the Budget of the Public Works Department and they will see that every year for the past several years that less and less money is being spent on actual things for the people in the community and more and more money being spent on wages. The percentage of the wages in the Department has gone up and the percentage of services actual physical things being done for people in the community has gone down every year. This n nng trend, anJ if we do put the continued) September t, 1976 Page 31 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹"0pe0007209 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council median strips in there, we are going to cost this City more money in wages and I don't think we need to do that. I just ask each of you to get out and get amongst the people down there and ask them what they think and it is their neighbor- hood and they should have the right to say what they want for their neighborhood, and I think the majority view should be evident by the petition that has been handed in by Mr. Tackitt. And that's all I have to say. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr; Blewett. Anybody else have anything to say? Councilman Hamilton Mr. Mayor, I have a question to Mr. Lathrop. Possibly he can answer it, and that is in regard to the safety of a street where the median, with proper markings of left turns or one that has the double lines in the street I have a question on that because the question was asked here tonight and it was stated that it would create more problems as far as traffic accidents. Do you have any figures or statistics on any of that? Mr. Lathrop No sir, I do not. I do know that, from a traffic engineering point of view, that raised medians are considered a very desirable type of construction from the standpoint of traffic safety. On heavily traveled streets, the raised median will generally prevent a head-on collision where the car in one direction might lose control and, without a median, could cross over the center line of the street. This is a very important factor, and as I say on heavily travelled streets. I was going to comment that the dashed double-double median, as it is in existence on Baldwin Park Blvd. at the present time, is a very desirable type of center median in the absence of a raised median in that, as has been brought out, any vehicle desiring to make a left hand turn can pull into this median it provides a safety zone prior to making the full left turn into the particular address. It has also been brought out this evening that U" continued) September 1, 1976 Page 32 COUNCILMAN HAMILTON BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹#0pe0007210 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council turns at intersections are more hazardous than mid-block left hand turns. I do not have statistics on that. I can not say unequtvocably, but I would say that U" turns might be slightly more hazardous than left turns. I am certainty unaware that they are substantially more hazardous. These are my comments. Councilman Hamilton I have another question, Mr. Lathrop. On the development, if it is approved, we know that maintain- ing the grass is expensive and, if I remember correctly, when this project was brought up on North Baldwin Park Blvd. that there was to be grass medians up to Los Angeles Street, and from there on it would be shrubbery and cobblestone. Is that still part of the plan? Mr. Lathrop This is what was approved by the City Council some 3 years ago; however, the turf that was set forth between Ramona Blvd. and Los Angeles Street was changed to a very low maintenance type of ground cover called cinquefoil There is no turf now proposed for either the North Baldwin Park Blvd. or the South Baldwin Park Blvd. Councilman Hamilton That will be strictly shrubbery and cobblestone? Mr. Lathrop Trees, shrubbery Councilman Hamilton Which would cut down the maintenance. That is the thing that we need to look at also. Mr. Lathrop That is correct. Councilman Hamilton I might connent, too, Mr. Mayor, that I have listened to all the people here and I know how they feel and they are very sincere, and of course we have talked for many years about trying to change the image of our City and tried to improve and beautify our City. This, I think is very important that we do this, because you figure Baldwin Park Blvd., coming off the Freeway, carries a lot of traffic, especially from Ramona south. People coming into town will get their first image of Baldwin Park. Now you go down Baldwin Park Blvd. to Merced; you took at the aesthetics continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹$0peoocnzii Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 34 of that and then you go past that and you see the double-double line, which is rusty ant faded and many times dirty with gravel out in the center. So this is another thing that I have considered, that to improve and to beautify our City, which I think that we all agree we need to do this. Then the question is now do we want to do this or do we want to leave it like it is. There will be no vote on that, I understand, tonight, but I understand the people and their concern about getting into their place of businesses, and some of them are very concerned because they wilt have to go 1/2 a block to come back to the house. I was out in West Covina, knowing that this was coming up, and I toured several streets out there and I saw many, many medians. Beautiful nice, and one place I had to go to a printer) down near Big Boy's, I wanted to make a left as I was going north. I couldn't make it and had to go 1/2 a block and come back on a U" turn, so it took me possibly a minute. So these are the things that we need to consider also and we also need to consider the wishes of our people who own property on that Boulevard. I realize this. Now I have stated heretofor, I have been in the retail business now for almost 40 years. I have been on streets without medians; I have been on streets with medians and I was here in Baldwin Park when Ramona Blvd. I was in business on Ramona and still am when the medians were put in when it was divided). I thought it would hurt us, but it didn't. Actually, our business picked up. So I think sometimes we get over zealous. I know what Mr. Colwick is talking about the double-double line there it affected him. He has facts and figures and I don't doubt his word one little bit, but in his particular business if you had a sign up there that said U" Turn Permitted," and a left hand turn pocket with an arrow, I doubi: very much if it would hurt his business. That is iny own opinion, Tom. I know you won't agree with it. But I want to bring out my point of this because there is another thing, too. Now we have a proposed million or multi-million dollar development south of the Freeway a CRA c-mtinued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹%0pe0007212 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council project) and I would tike to take this time to ask our City Manager if he would care to comment on that or how this would affect that project down there. I am trying to consider all angles. What is the best for the City of Baldwin Park is iny reason for asking all these questions. Acting City Manager Sexton The answer I would give to that, Councilman Hamilton, is that the Redevelopment Project at the South Baldwin Park Blvd. site contemplates the installation of median landscape strips, sidewalks, widened boulevards, lighting, and all of those kinds of features which would be not only compatible, but suitable to that type of development Since that is on the southern border of the City, it would provide an entrance from the City of Industry into the commun- ity, beautified in the manner that I have just described. Councilman Hamilton Thank you, gentlemen. That is all I have. Mayor Waldo Any further questions? Councilman Kitchet I have a few comments I would like to make. I think we have found we are in a position where we are somewhat unnecessarily alarmed. You know that when you travel in some of your thriving communities I have worked out in Fox Hills you've got Culver City, you've got Santa Monica, you've got Inglewood) you take your areas out here you've got Hacienda Heights, Whittier, San Gabriel, Temple City, Arcadia) take the thriving communities and most of them have landscaped medians running right down their main thoroughfares and it hasn't damaged their business If anything, it has enhanced it. Now I realize some people in the audience might think that the beautificatlon aspect of this is probably the last consideration that we should make. I don't. I think that the aestetic view that this is going to beautify that area. It is going to increase the image of that area; it is going to attract. It is economically tied in with the CRA project on the other side of the Freeway. If anything, it is go-ing to, in my opinion, continued) September 1, 1976 Page 35 A.C.M. SEXTON RE EFFECT OF MEDIAN ON C.R.A. PROJECT COUNCILMAN KITCHEL BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹&0pe0007213 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council make this area blossom. I don't think we should tie ourselves down simply because we feel that not having these openings is just going to sever off all business for those concerned. It is not that much of an inconvenience. We have it right down Ramona Blvd. If a person wants to go to WinchelTs Donut House, they have to make a U" turn and come back. People do these things. They go through that little inconvenience. It beautifies the community; it increases the image, and as far as I am concerned, it is making those communities that I mentioned, as well as many others, economically more sound. For that reason I am in favor of it. But I think, too, to be consistent with the position that we took on legalizing Bingo, we had an overwhelming support of people in the audience who were for Bingo. And to pay fairness to those who might have been opposed to Bingo, we held it over before we took action on it. For that reason I think because it affects the entire community it doesn't just affect those on Baldwin Park Blvd. that we should hold this over and wait to hear what some of the other citizens have to say concern- ing it. Mayor Waldo Thank you, Mr. Kitchel. Councilman Aguilar Two or three months ago we had the same situation on Ramona Blvd. with Town & Country Liquor and Rudy said it was going to hurt his business. At that time I was against medians because actually, when I go to downtown Baldwin Park I start cussing left and right because I can't make a turn when I want to make a turn. If I can't go one place, I go someplace else. But I do want to see the City of Baldwin Park become beautiful. But if it is going to cost us the business men oh, no. So I would like to have a study of any other street that we could use that money on. Councilman Blewett I'll second that. Councilman Aguilar It's not a motion. Two I would like to know if we could possibly at the intersection of Baldwin September 1, 1976 Page 36 COUNCILMAN AGUILAR STUDY OTHER USE OF FUNDS STUDY CUT MEDIAN AT B.P.BLVD. & FRANCISQUITO continued) BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹'0pe0007^14 Regular Meet-ing of the Baldwin Park City Council Park Blvd. and Francisquito cut down that median so that the gas station there could have an exit. Is that possible? Mr. Lathrop If an opening in the median could be provided at the intersection? Councilman Aguilar Right. Mr. Lathrop For the shopping center and the service station? Councilman Aguilar shopping center and for both corners. Mayor Waldo Pardon me. Councilman Aguilar. I think what he is talking about is similar to the Ramona Blvd. at the intersection of Barnes and Ramona. The island stops quite a distance back from the intersection and maybe that would prevent access ingress and regress. Mr. Lathrop I can answer, but I would like to explain the reason for the median stopping so far short of the inter- section at the Barnes and Syracuse intersections. The reason for that is because the right of way for the street improvement is much narrower than Ramona Blvd. further to the east and also for Baldwin Park Blvd. and therefore the median in that area is only 10 ft. wide and 10 ft. is the mimimum width for a left turn pocket. It was physically impossible, really, to construct a narrow, raised median beyond the present terminus of the median at these two intersections. The intention of the final improvement is to have a painted, left turn pocket delineated so as to channel the vehicles up to the intersection and not necess- arily to permit left turns or U" turns short of the inter- section. Now in answer to the question of Mr. Aguilar in regard to Baldwin Park Blvd. and Francisquito Ave. Physically, yes, an opening could be left in the median short of the intersection to accommodate left turns into the service station, shopping center and the tike. I can not say whether such design would ultimately be approved by the Federal Highway Administration which does pass judgement on plans and specifications for all FAU funded projects. I have discussed this with them. Their ov.n comments were continued) September 1, 1976 Page 37 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹(0pe0007215 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council that this 1s certainly an undesirable type of design construction and that it would necessitate further con- sideration on their part before they could say they would approve or disapprove such design. Councilman Blewett Mr. Mayor, there are also a couple of other streets to be considered. There is Foster Street and there is the street just past Francisquito the other way Tracy because there are businesses that are set back from the corner. There Is nothing wrong with beauty and I think that's great, and I think this Council took steps during the Budget to alleviate a problem that exists in the community as far as the housing blight which was mentioned here. And I think that is the first step. It is really going to look rotten going down the street looking at this beautiful median strip and looking at houses that are not taken care of. I think we have kind of got the cart running ahead of the horse. I just think this thing is totally ill advised and I think it is going to I'll tell you one thing, I would not want it on ny conscience to destroy any man's business. I won't have it on my conscience. Mayor Waldo Well, I have something to say. This median didn't come about over night. It has been studied for years and years and has been a source of controversy for many years. I doubt if there was any when it was started on the Ramona Section and the portion of Baldwin Park Blvd. up to Merced I doubt if any member sitting on this Council today was here when that was first smarted. Is that correct? Councilman Hamilton I was here on Ramona and Baldwin Park Blvd. both. Mayor Waldo And were you here when we did the Ramona and Baldwin Park Blvd.? Councilman Blewett I was Mayor. Mayor Waldo Okay. We have 2 people on here that really started the thing and what they did was they started a project continued) September 1. 1976 Page 38 MAYOR WALDO BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹)0peroowiG Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council and now Mr. Btewett 1s asking us not to finish that project. We have a dilemma on our hands. In the past Baldwin Park has started things and never seemed to get it finished. Now this is the end of the line. I think we need to consider that, gentlemen. Do we stop the project in the middle of It, half completed, or do we complete it? I don't remember when the project from Ramona to Merced was contemplated. I had a business on that corner of Baldwin Park Blvd. and Ramona and I was one of the people that objected to it because in my section they completely removed Baldwin Park Blvd. Changed the direction of the street and called it something else, but the main stream of traffic was geared to by-pass me completly and I have to admit I was a little upset about it. And I was upset about the Ramona Blvd. project when it came through. They eliminated two streets. Pacific Avenue used to come into my property as well, and I got traffic from 3 different sources Baldwin Park Blvd., Pacific and Ramona, and when it was through I really had access from Ramona Blvd. If you missed the turnoff, you found yourself on the other side of town was the way I looked at it. However, like Mr. Hamilton just stated surprises of surprises, a year later I found out that n-^y business had increased 2Q%. And I found out something very interesting. If you have a product that people want or a service that you perform very well, people will come to you. And I ask you how many of you gentlemen out here have a barber that you have been going to that you like very well, or you ladies have a particular hairdresser that you use. If that lady moved down the block and was slightly inconveniencing for you to get there, I can bet you one thing. You would go because you liked the service that they perform. That is just one of the little things I wanted to throw in here because I don't believe that businesses are destroyed because it takes an extra minute to get thei'e. I jsed to believe that continued) September 1, 1976 Page 39 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹*0pecoom^ Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council but it was proven to me that it was not so. Councilman Hamilton Mr. Mayor. I am going to call for a point of order. I don't want to make any decisions which will hurt business. That I want to avoid because I know how important this is to a retailer and I do not object to making openings in the median to accomnodate businesses for instance, as Mr. Cotwick mentioned. We did it for the Bowl, as far as this plan goes, and I think it is fine because there is a small shopping center there as well as where Mr. Colwick is at. I don't object to this. I don't want to make any decisions that are going to hurt the businessman, but I do want to continue to beautify and upgrade our City. This is important to all the people in Baldwin Park, as well as to you and I and the rest. Now we have to consider the whole spectrum. Now we are going to be asked to make a decision on this either yes or no, so before I make a decision I want to do some thorough investigation in other cities. And I ask our Staff, if before next meeting if they could go out and could do this and make a report, because my past experience is that it does not hurt business. And this is not the only place that I was when a median went in. I was at Five Points in E1 Monte and I thought it would ruin me and I objected strongly, but it did not. Mayor Waldo Was that your gasoline Councilman Hamilton Yes, that was a Mobil Service Station on the corner of Valley Blvd. and Garvey before the Freeway went through. I thought, well, I am going to lose all iny eastbound business. They win have to go down a half a block and come back. But I didn't, and really, it improved the traffic flow and cut down on accidents at the corner and it didn't hurt our business. So I think some of the people here are overly concerned on something that is not going to affect them. That is really my honest opinion. Now I am speaking from experience. That time down there was about 30 years ago and this time here was just recent. continued) September 1, 1976 Page 40 COUNCILMAN HAMILTON BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹+0peRegular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Now that was the two places that I've been in when this happened. Now the westbound traffic to come into my place they used to be going both ways and they could stop and come in now they got to go down a block and come back and they do this or go round the block. And it didn't hurt me. It really didn't and I thought it would. R.it this was a plan to beautify the City so I didn't object to it. I thought maybe it will but it did not, and I don't believe this will hurt down there. I really don't. That is my sincere belief. I know you people are very sincere about this and you really believe it and I respect your belief. I am just stating my belief and my own ideas of it. Councilman Aguilar Mayor, I move that we table well, carry it over until September 15 until we get more information. Councilman Blewett Second. Mayor Waldo If there are no objections, gentlemen, so ordered 00" It.was the time and place fixed for a Public Hearing on an Application for Modification of CP-224 at 14700 Badillo Street; Applicant: Taylormade Trucking Company, Inc. Publications, mailings and postings had been accomplished. There were no written protests. Assistant Planner Montoya presented the case history beginning in January 1976 with the approval of CP-224 for the property to be used as a truck terminal and for recreational vehicle parking. A week later the City Council initiated an appeal to this approval of the Planning Commission, contesting the approval of allow- ing truck and recreational vehicle parking on the property in conjunction with operation of a truck terminal. At a Public Hearing on March 3, the City Council approved the use of the property for a truck terminal only. The applicant filed a request to modify a condition of the City Council*s Appeal that stated that no portion of the parking facilities shall be made available for parking or storage of unrelated vehicles. The applicant had requested that this condition be deleted. On August 11, the Planning Commission held a Public Hearing and approved the modification to delete the condition of the City Council's Appeal and added a new condition to allow recreational vehicle continued) September 1, 1976 Page 41 CARRY OVER PUB. HEARING UNTIL SEPT. 15 FOR MORE INFOR- MATION PUB. HEARING APPLIC. FOR MOOIF. OF CP- 224 AT 14700 BADILLO ST. APPLICANT: TAYLORMADE TRUCKING CO.. INC. PUBLICATIONS, MAILINGS & POSTINGS NO WRITTEN PROTESTS BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹,0peC007219 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 42 parking to be added to I;',.1 existing truck terminal. Mr. Montoya said the recommendation of the Planning Commission was that the City Council concur with their decision and approve the modification to the Conditional Use Permit. John Bilyou, President of Taylormade Trucking Company, requested two years for the construction of the block wall between the M-1 zone and R-1 zone, from his BadiUo location to Virginia Ave. He asKed that the word block" be changed to masonry construction. Mr. Montoya stated that the Planning Commission was willing to concur with the 2-year extension of time to plan business expenditures, but requested that a solid block wall be put up as required, rather than gunnite. Tom Carpenter, 4346 Jerry, spoke in opposition to allowing recreational vehicle in a residential area. As there was no further testimony in behalf or opposition to the Application for Modification of CP-224 at 14700 Badillo Street, Mayor Waldo declared the Public Hearing closed. Discussion followed among the City Council, City Clerk Balkus read by title: RESOLUTION NO. 76-77, APPROVING A MODIFICATION OF RESOLUTION 76-15 TO ADD RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING TO AN EXISTING TRUCK TERMINAL ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14700 BADILLO STREET RESOLUTION NO. 76-77 ADOPTED AND FURTHER READING WAIVED. M/S/C: AGUILAR/KITCHEL. There were no objections. Mayor Waldo confirmed that the City Council had approved the 2-year extension on the building of the solid block wall 00- Director of Public Works Lathrop referred to a letter from Mr. Robert G. Berry, requesting that the City deed a small parcel of City property next to his residence at 3907 Virginia Avenue in exchange for sidewalk construction adjacent to it. City Clerk Balkus read by title: RESOLUTION NO. 76-78, DECLARING THAT A CERTAIN PARCEL OF CITY PROPERTY IS SURPLUS AND AUTHORING ITS DISPOSAL JOHN BILYOU TOM CARPENTER IN OPPOSITION PUB. HEARING CLOSED RES. NO. 76-77, APPROVING A MOD IF. OF RES. 76-15 TO ADD REC. VEHICLE PARKING TO EXIST- ING TRUCK TERMINAL ON PROPERTY LOC- ATED AT 14700 BADILLO STREET RES. NO. 76-77 ADOPTED 2-YR. EXT. APPROVED ON BLDG. BLOCK WALL WRITTEN COMMUN. ROBERT G. BERRY REQ. CITY TO DEED PROPERTY,IN EXCH.• FOR SIDEWALK CONS'* RES. NO- 76-78, DECLARING A CERTAIN PARCEL OF CITY PROPERTY SURPLUS & AUTH. ITS DISPOSAL RESOLUTION NO. 76-78 ADOPTED AND FURTHER READING WAIVED. M/S/C: BLEWETT/HAMILTON. There were no objections. 00- RES. NO, ADOPTED 76-78 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹-0peC007220 Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council Ac,ting City Manager Sexton referred to a contract with Los Angeles County for Housing Community Development funding and said that $265,000 would be received in two increments, $100,000 subsequent to execution of the contract and the balance after an Environmental Impact Report had been filed and approved. APPROVE CONTRACT AND FORWARD TO THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES. M/S/C: AGUILAR/HAMILTON. There were no injections. 00- Acting City Manager Sexton referred to a request for Disability Retirement from Chief of Police Adams. He said it would be necessary to review and receive information on this from the various Federal and State agencies involved in Disability Retirement. ACTING CITY MANAGER TO PROCESS INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY AND REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT A SPECIAL MEETING MAY BE CALLED. September 1, 1976 Page 43 CONTRACT WITH L.A COUNTY FOR HCD FUNDS APP. CONTRACT & FORWARD TO COUNTY OF L.A. C.O.P. REQUEST FOR DISABILITY RETIREMENT A.C. M. PROCESS INFORMATION IMMED & REPORT TO C.C. SO THAT SPEC. MTG, MAY BE CALLED 00- Councilman Aguilar requested that a report be made on the lighting at the Park Bowl, as he said there had been a lot of thefts lately. REPORT ON LIGHTING AT PARK BOWL Councilman Aguitar asked that R-rated and X-rated movies at He suggested that the City of see how-they had accomplished 00- an effort be made to stop the Edgewood Drive-In. La Mirada be contacted to this. 00- CONTACT LA MIRAOA TO SEE HOW THEY STOPPED R & X-RATEU MOVIES Councilman Kitchel suggested that the Staff check the feasibility of holding one City Council Meeting per month with th6 possibility of holding a Town Hall Meeting during the same month. He suggested that the Oral Communications be deleted from the Council Meeting so that more business could be conducted, with Oral Communications brought up at the Town Halt Meeting. Councilma'n.Hamilton said he was not in favor of dropping Onal Communications at the Council Meetings, but stated hel thought more dignity should be demanded. C Councilman Blewett asked for a study on the concept of 2 weekly Council Meetings and 2 study sessions for the City Council. He suggested that Staff could attend the study sessions by invitation only. 00- Gloria Zook, 4817 North La Rica, spoke in opposition to expense of trip to Sacramento, appearing unprepared and attacking the Legislature. 00" Raul Zayas, 12815 Finchley, referred to the 1974 Proposition A State of California Parks Bond Act passed by the voters and asked if Baldwin Park has made any plans for the funds. 00- Tom KI.ein, 12800 Salisbury, referred to a petition regarding traffic problems at Barnes and Syrucuse Ave. continued) STAFF CHECK HAVING ONE C.C. MTG. & ONE TOWN HALL MTG. PER MONTH STAFF CHECK- WEEKLY C-C. MTGS. OR HOW OTHER CITIES CONDUCT MEETINGS GLORIA ZOOK RAUl ZAYAS RE PROP. A. CALIF. PARKS BOND ACT FUNDS TOM KLEIN RE THANKS TO MR. LATHROP BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹.0peRegular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council that had been sent to the City. He said Mrs. Grace and and Mr. Addington had asked him to thank Mr. Lathrop and everyone who had published new signs and marked the streets and enforced it. He referred to his group that had been protesting taxes forcing the County Board of Supervisors to re-open their budget, but said the Board had upped one meeting on Tuesday to Wednesday morning and that when the taxpayers attended, they found the meeting had been set up for the afternoon. He said that special meeting had then been cancelled until Thursday mining and that he had received special information that the budget-was going to be passed as it was. He invited full force attendance by the taxpayer's at the Thursday Board of Supervisor's Budget Meeting. 00- Helen Gibson, 13268 Francisquito, referred to whether a person is to be acknowledged when they ask for a point of order. She questioned whether the citizens who had given testimony at the Public Hearing on P-138 and P-141 were required to re- submit it in writing. Mr. Lathrop said the 10-day period was open only for additional written testimony. 00- Michael Dargus, 13260 East Francisquito, objected to no action on truck parking on Moran's property and that he had gotten no answer to his question pertaining to expenses of tity Council in Sacramento. He asked if the City was going to subsidize the Treasure Chest for its propaganda. 00- Duane Glass, referred to the time spent at each Council Meeting by citizens who chew out" the Council or defend the Council. He suggested that anything directed against the Mayor should be in writing and that the Mayor should respond in writing. He referred to the political slant of newspapers. He spoke in favor of CRA and studies on it. He opposed attacks on Councilmen. 00- Toin Carpenter, 4346 Jerry, opposed attacks on people in the audience by other citizens and suggested opening up the City Budget in order to consider chopping" anything in the Budget that didn't belong there that could be given back to the taxpayers. 00- September 1, 1976 Page 44 FOR ACTION ON BARNES/SYRACUSE PETITION & RE INVITATION TO ATTEND BD. OF SUPERVISOR'S BUDGET MTG. HELEN GIBSON i RE POINT OP ORDER f & WHETHER TESTIMONY GIVEN AT PUB. HEAR- ING ON P-138 & P-141 SHOULD BE RESUBMITFEC IN WRITING MICHAEL DARGUS RE TRUCK PARKING AT MORAN'S, EXPENSES IN SACRAMENTO & COS1 OF TREAS. CHEST DUA^E GLASS RE ATTACKS ON COUNCIL- MEN BY CITIZENS & NEWSPAPER & IN FAVOR OF CRA TOM CARPENTER RE ATTACKS ON THE AUDIENCE & CUTTING CITY BUDGET Acting City Attorney Ritchie was excused to attend to other matters. 00- Hallie Slater, 4814 N. Stancroft Street, asked when plans on CRA Project 2.would be available to the people of Baldwin Park. She objected to taking out ads in throwaway papers rather than to use the City Newsletter to communicate with the people. continued) A.C. A. RITCHIE EXCUSED HALLIE SLATER RE AVAILABILITY OF CRA PROJ. NO. 2 PLANS & RE CITY NEWSLETTER BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹/0peRegular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council She objected to expendi res by Council members and agreed that the Budget should be re-opened. 00- James Garrow, 1011 North Baldwin Park Blvd., commended At Stockton and Tom-Klein for their efforts in their action to get the tax rate reduced. He stated that the tax structure wilt be reformed by th legislature in Sacramento in the future. 00- City Clerk Balkus referred to a written communication from Keith Craig, a Boy Scout who had recently received a commendation from the City Council. He expressed his appreciation to Councilman Blewett and the rest of the Council and said that his trip to Washington had been a once in a lifetime experience. 00- Councilman Hamilton referred to the question from Raul Zayas regarding whether application had been made for funds available for Recreation and Parks Dept. use. Mr. Zayas was told tnat Director of Recreation and Parks Lucas would make a report regarding the application for funds. 00- Mayor Waldo explained to Mr. Carpenter that September 1 was the day that the tax raze was.legally set and that that date was here. He pointed out that Mr. Carpenter had not been present at the Board of Supervisors meetings to help fight for property tax reduction. Council discussion followed concerning ridicule as opposed to constructive criticism of the City Council. The Council asked that they be treated with dignity and respect by the citizen and agreed to try to control their remarks among themselves. 00- 0007222 September 1, 1976 Page 45 EXPENDITURES BY C.C. MEMBERS & RE-OPEN BUDGET JAMES GARROW RE EFFORTS OF AL STOCKTON & TOM KLEIN ON PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION WRITTEN COMMUN. KEITH CRAIG DIR. OF REC. & PARKS LUCAS WILL MAKE REPORT ON APPLICATION t-OR PARK FUNDS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AT 11^3 P.M. THE MEETING ADJOURNED. HAMILTON. There were no objections. M/S/C: AGUILAR/ 11:13 P.M. MEETING ADJOURNED 00- &jQ^^ c^^L^L^' THELMA L. BALKUS, CITY CLERK APPROVED: J^.j2Aa^^ j 5 1976 Date of Distribution to City Council: September 10, 1976 Date of Distribution to Departments: September 10, 1976 BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 1976 09 01 CC MIN(ÌìÍ¹00peREGULAR MEETING OF THE BALDWIN PARK CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS) 14403 East Pacific Avenue The City Council of the City of Baldwin Park met in regular session at the above place at 7:30 p.m. Councilman Aguilar led the salute to the flag. Invocation was given by Pastor Stephen Harris, Four Square Gospel Church. Present: COUNCILMEN AGUILAR, BLEWETT. HAMILTON, KITCHEL, AND MAYOR WALDO Roll Call: ACTING CITY MANAGER SEXTON, ACTING CITY ATTORNEY RITCHIE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS LATHROP, ASSISTANT PLANNER MONTOYA, FINANCE DIRECTOR HALLOWAY, LIEUTENANT CHELLINO, CITY TREASURER MONTENEGRO AND CITY CLERK BALKUS Also Present: Absent: DIRECTOR OF PLANNING KILGOUR AND CHIEF OF POLICE ADAMS 00- SEPTEMBER 1, 1976 7:30 P.M. FLAG SALUTE INVOCATION ROLL CALL CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING Project P-138, Baldwin Park Blvd. between Ramona Blvd. and Live Oak Avenue Project P-141, Baldwin Park Blvd. between Merced Avenue and Bess Avenue 00- Z-398 An Application for a Zone Change from Zone C-1 and R-1 to C-2 on property located at 14510 Garvey Avenue. Applicant: Sixpence Inns of America, Inc. 00- AT 11:13 P.M. COUNCILMAN AGUILAR MOVED, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON SECONDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURN. There were no objections. 00- CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 15, 1976 CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 6, 1976 ADJOURNED 11:13 P.M. U. THELMA L. BALKUS, CITY CLERK DATED: SEPTEMBER 1, 1976 TIME: 10:00 A.M. BIB] 37658-U01 1976-U02 09-U02 01-U02 CC-U02 MIN-U02 LI1-U03 FO9591-U03 FO9725-U03 DO9775-U03 C4-U03 MINUTES1-U03 2/5/2003-U04 ROBIN-U04 REGULAR-U05 SESSION-U05 CITY-U06 COUNCIL-U06 0pe000718^ Regular Meeting of the Baldwin Park City Council September 1, 1976 Page 10 myself, can see several negative angles toward putting the median in the street, causing the traffic problems as far as people that want access to a business along Baldwin Park Blvd., it is going to hinder their access as far as their driving there and in some cases it is going to make a choice of whether they do business across the street or whether they drive on down the street. So I, for one, would like to see no action taken on this sort of thing because I think the City needs business and if you put in something that would hurt or hinder the business in the City would seem foolish to me. I happen to be a businessman myself and I believe that this action does represent the possible beautifying of the City but is at the same time detrimental to the business of the City. I think regardless of where this money come from, partially or wholly by the federal government, in any case, it could be well spent in other areas, such as the fellow said that got up and spoke earlier. There are several streets that have curbing that needs improvement and sidewalks that need to be either completed or repaired. I think that we do have a good section of median on Ramond and Baldwin Park that would represent a fair amount of greenery for our size city, and to continue that would be putting this a little more out of proportion than is absolutely necessary for this size of city, and more than the people in our City would tike to see. I am afraid for most people and for the public involved, it would be pretty detrimental for their driving and their access to and from the City. I feel that Baldwin Park Blvd. is the major access to the City off the Freeway and if the area is going to develop, I feel that business along Baldwin Park Blvd. probably will increase if it has the opportunity. If things are going to be put in of this nature that are going to deny public access, I feel that is going to be a strong consideration for business possibly in the future that had plans of locating in that area. Thank you. l Mayor Waldo Thank you, sir. Gloria Zook, 4817 North La Rica, Baldwin Park. By putting these medians G. ZOOK in the center strip, it seems to be that you are picking and perhaps choosing. For the Bowl when you were putting medians in Ramona, I heard several businessmen here asking if they couldn't have a way into their business and it was denied. I am wondering if this isn*t blocking off some home- owners to the access to their homes. 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